Supporting the Troops.... the lack thereof, Speaking with forked tongue Options

[Hellfighter]

This one's nauseating;
Regardless of whoever the leader is/party they represent, if they're committed to spending hundreds of billions of dollars in a 'war effort', a large chunk of that should be set aside to fully and unconditionally accomodate the needs of its frontline fighters during and after their service. Where are the neo-cons/Bush admin and their 'support the troops' rhetoric now sticking up for vets on this issue you'll read- disgusting.....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071108/ap_on_...Ys14ZD7TKBH2ocA
Can I suggest you who are able to do so, drop your Governors a line or two on this. It's not right at all.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 11/08/07 4:51am

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

I have tremendous respect for Canada, the UK, Poland, Australia and several other countries. They have always been supportive of the US! God Bless them!

Defense Spending
USA = $650 Billion Rest of the Entire World = $500 Billion

Canada $9.8 Billion - Population 33M 15th in the world
Netherlands $9.4 Billion - Population 16M


Although accurate statistics are difficult to get:
US Homeless is about 0.3%
Candadian Homeless is about 0.6%
**So at the very least - Canada has just as big of a problem and yet your concerned about the US?

There's your facts. Lkike I said, your only using this issue to bash the USA War Policy on Terorist.

I'm pleased your having a good day...LoL...Continue to do so!

[Hellfighter]

I have tremendous respect for Canada, the UK, Poland, Australia and several other countries. They have always been supportive of the US! God Bless them!

Defense Spending
USA = $650 Billion Rest of the Entire World = $500 Billion

Canada $9.8 Billion - Population 33M 15th in the world
Netherlands $9.4 Billion - Population 16M


Although accurate statistics are difficult to get:
US Homeless is about 0.3%
Candadian Homeless is about 0.6%
**So at the very least - Canada has just as big of a problem and yet your concerned about the US?

There's your facts. Lkike I said, your only using this issue to bash the USA War Policy on Terorist.

I'm pleased your having a good day...LoL...Continue to do so!

Earth to Cpt.Rocket....bzzzzzzzz, ground control to...
Well seeing as this is the War on Terror Forum, no mystery you'll find criticisms about war strategy here. You'd probably like to see 99% goody 2 shoes posts in this forum, but I'm just giving my opinions on things revolving around fatally flawed issues imho.... and that perhaps shares a new perspective for others.

It's good googling you've done with bringing up stats there- however.... how they help your arguments you've failed to show,
What are comparisons without your train of thought or using them to make a point;
If I have no stats of crime in a certain area I can claim no crime exists there.

I won't argue with your stats though- in actuality Canada's homeless numbers/ratio could be higher than your top figures given. {My quick stats show around 750,000 homeless out of 300 mil. USA - around 250,000 out of 30 mil. Canada therefore the rate is beyond double by your stats. I'd venture to say our 'general' homeless situation appears to be WORSE than in the USA.
Reason #1-
We have a crushing cost of living up here [one of the worst of all western/developed nations -and I'm not playing favourites just because I live here if you assume I'm offended by the stats in its higher rating compared to the USA.. I don't like at all how our local politicians ignore the homeless problem and seem more inclined to leaving it up to charitable organizations to plug the gaps rather than themselves going after the issues driving people onto the streets,
That being said, I still have no clue how general homelessness stats you brought up supports any argument you make about vets homelessness -actually what is your point?
Are you defending Bush when he says 'support the troops' but there's that many homeless vets-by choice or not is beside the issue- in fact by choice would indicate a need for therapeutic needs directed their way..

Why would you bring up stats showing astronomical figures for US Defence spending when your first posting claims the US admin is in no position to spend $$$ on looking after/investigating vets who feel left out of normal society. If so SO much less is spent by the rest of the world, then a piece of that pie could be redistributed in a direct beneficial way. Your stats show the US admin as overspending.

What's the mystery in my bashing the Bush admin war policy- I say war policy because his grand adventure into Iraq wasn't a direct attack on terrorism. He and the neocons had fears not facts as their basis to go to war. Recall I've said many times in my posts of old how I was initially for going into Iraq and defended criticisms by others in the early stages... now I deduced a different point of view- so add this to that 'there you have it' list for me.... I'm against the war policy because it turned out NOT to be a war on terror policy. If you can't see how Taliban land and Pakistan is the true hotbed of terrorist activity/potential disaster for world peace- then that's up to you.

Finally, if you can see how we can make big $$$ going on a circuit debating at universities or similar please let me know asap, I need some quick cash for xmas prezzies.....

ps. since you care, I had another good day today


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 11/18/07 7:54pm