CNN covered up Saddam Hussein's crimes, before the war started Options

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=73a_1181328755

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

While I enjoy our discussions, it becomes just plain silly when you begin denying actual events that take place in the word and in order to protect your self imposed position you need to deny any and all reports that tend to disagree with your position.



So you think the main battle with Al Quacka is in Africa and Afghanistan?!?! Funny how we seem to keep killing them Iraq. Maybe that's because that's where the "battle" is. Even Osama has repeatedly said how important victory in Iraq is. Funny how I seem to miss all the headlines about Americans being killed by Al Quacka in Africa. Show me the link that says the main battle is in Africa.


Youir denial of WMD's used on Iraqi's is absurd:
The Halabja (Northern Iraq) attack involved multiple chemical agents, including mustard gas, and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX. It began with 8 Russian built fighter/bombers.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1991/IRAQ913.htm#4

Mass murder graves in Iraq contain "400,000 so far" -Tony Blair
Nerve and Mustard Gas used on Kurds
http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/pdf/iraq_mass_graves.pdf

Saddam admits use of WMD's on Iran
http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Saddam...6290507910.html

An example of numerous reports that WMD were removed from Iraq to Syria. I don't know whether WMD's were moved into Syria or not. It is constitant with certain facts and has makes some logical sense. Especially if Russia was trying to hide their involvement. But this highlights our difference. I am willing to view all information and and put together some logical conclusions. http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articl.../2/230625.shtml

You really need to read the ISG report.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/...g-final-report/
It contains the following statements:
In the years following Iraq's war with Iran and invasion of Kuwait, Saddam's Regime sought to preserve the ability to reconstitute his WMD, while seeking sanctions relief through the appearance of cooperation with the UN Special Commission (UNSCOM) and the UN Monitoring Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC).

Many former Iraqi officials close to Saddam either heard him say or inferred that he intended to resume WMD programs when sanctions were lifted. Those around him at the time do not believe that hemade a decision to permanently abandon WMD programs.

Iraq attempted to balance competing desires to appear to cooperate with the UN and have sanctions lifted, and to preserve the ability to eventually reconstitute its weapons of mass destruction.

The release of long-concealed WMD documentation planted at Husayn Kamil's farm in August 1995, and Iraq's declarations in February 1996 revealing new aspects of the WMD programs were major turning points in the Regime's denial and deception efforts following the Desert Storm

The Regime made a token effort to comply with the disarmament process, but the Iraqis never intended to meet the spirit of the UNSC's resolutions.

ISG has not found evidence that Saddam Husayn possessed WMD stocks in 2003, but the available evidence from its investigation—including detainee interviews and document exploitation—leaves open the possibility that some weapons existed in Iraq although not of a militarily significant capability.

[Hellfighter]

While I enjoy our discussions, it becomes just plain silly when you begin denying actual events that take place in the word and in order to protect your self imposed position you need to deny any and all reports that tend to disagree with your position.

Still no slamdunk on your part -or close imo Mr.Rocket.

First you still don't get it about the number of Iraqis killed by nerve gas + mass graves..... 300-or 400,000 Iraqis were not killed by wmds. NO-no-nooooo!!! That figure is the estimated total number of Iraqis killed during sodom's entire reign. Most-the vast majority were butchered by firing squads. Show me where you have read half a million civilians dying by wmd? I have many friends from Iraq with relatives all over the nation-north/south/west - none mention this massive use of wmds- there would be millions more dying/suffering from collateral effects of wmds on that scale. You have your figures wrong on this point because you misconstrued your research somewhere.

This thread is about was wmd programs being pursued to the extent of going to war. Once again Bush has admitted 'no'- there are no wmds in Iraq; cia said before the war there was no definate proof of wmd/or programs going on in Iraq; the iraqi defectors have all been showed to be liars about exaggerated claims of wmd programs going on in Iraq! Thus I'm not sure why you retreat back to 1980s as your proof.

'As for Saddam admits use of wmd in Iran'
That event as you linked was not a hidden secret in that war - the Iranians were immediately and openly spreading word of its use against their human-wave attacks at the time. There was nothing to admit since it wasn't a secret. It was a known fact to the world.
For some reason you bring up links dating back to the 1980s Iraq/Iran War as proof- I told you in my post these chemical weapons were used in that war -tell me something I don't know?!! What does that war of 20 years ago have to do with the reasons for going into the latest war in Iraq?

Yes, my opinion is a battle going on in Iraq with Al kooks but my opnion is its not the main battle. I maintain its disposable agents keeping the attention there while the real subterfuge hardcore pee-ons are manouevrering globally and quietly-setting up. It's not a hidden fact that al kooks have rebuilt their formations globally. I'm not arguing al quaeda's not taking a licking in Iraq, but you can imagine they've gone there from Syria with a one-way ticket; so instead of slipping away to fight another day, they're staying there come what may -imo.

I read that linked 'global security' report- but what tangible evidence does it prove beyond sodom's desire to perhaps put a project in effect as opposed to wmds in a 'ready-stage' as the Bush admin claimed/lied.

If CIA got hold of real poof wmds in Iraq you can bet they'd pay a king's ransom to a network of anti-sadamists to bump him off- not just overthrow him-> which proved to be disastrously futile on several occasions unfortunately.

Has anyone read this book? If not, get it, its a great read. Written by Georges Sada, a Christian, who was the No.2 man in the Iraq Air Force. His account of what happened beforet the war is chilling. He tells how a large passenger plane was stripped and used to carry the WMD to Syria.

http://www.nysun.com/article/26514

An interesting link mr.Ghostchild, but that link was a year ago- and a meeting with US officials was mentioned regarding those facts, but from that point until now nothing revealing has come out of these presented 'statements' that has proved a wmd program being undertaken.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 11/30/07 5:27pm