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post 10/22/08 11:28pm
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I would love to see the press do their job on every government official -senators reps and all the way down ,strip clubs ,hookers ,drugs, and their fucked up kids. Seriously.am i the only one that notices our press does their job ONLY around election time?



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Blitz
post 10/23/08 6:10pm
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I think the point was that the media is so far in the tank for Obama that they are growing gills.

The fact that they have already done a rectal exam on a person who mistakenly asked Obama a question that made him look bad and then they poured thru his past is the point.

What do you know about Obama's past?

Where are his writing's from harvard?
how did he get accepted?
What was his role with acorn?
the woods foundation?
the annonberg foundation?
What about Bernardine Dohrn and Obama's wife working together?
Ayers hosting Obama's political coming out party?

....... on and on it could go these would seem like stories...except he's a democrat.

How is it that he his "mis-spoken" about his ties to Ayers numerous times yet there is no investigation about their past history?
Here are some classics quotes

He was just a guy who lived in my neighborhood.
I was only eight years old when he was throwing bombs.
I didn't know about his history when we started working together
I thought he had been rehabilitated.

The fact that he could not even get secret service clearance to be the president's bodygaurd yet no-one investigates his past?

Yea the Rev Wright thing blew up a little, if it was a republican it would have been a HUGE never ending story.

Look at the difference between the larry craig scandle coverage vs john edwards?

Look at the donations from the media to Dem's...
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.a...301702713742569

Look at the coverage by the media.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail...ccain_much.html

Yes, there is talk radio and the internet to help balance this out, and people like myself can research some facts on both sides, but the average person that turns on their local news in the AM over coffee, or to catch the evening news for the weather are swamped with left leaning bias on a daily basis.

So for these people their opinion can be swayed by the bias of the media.

The point of journalism is to give un-biased facts and present the story. The press today is writing op-ed pieces and claiming they are journalists.

Yes the person had an axe to grind in their article, that was the point.

Nancy Pelosi comes out and claims the dem's had no role in the mortgage crisis? Ummm Okay I guess here at the Dem's press operation center we will bury it on page 9 or run it on non prime time news, and get onto slamming McCain on how he said the fundamentals of our economy are strong.
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post 10/24/08 6:21am
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QUOTE(Blitz @ 10/23/08 7:10pm) *
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Yes the person had an axe to grind in their article, that was the point.

Nancy Pelosi comes out and claims the dem's had no role in the mortgage crisis? Ummm Okay I guess here at the Dem's press operation center we will bury it on page 9 or run it on non prime time news, and get onto slamming McCain on how he said the fundamentals of our economy are strong.


Why is Obama's past considered a mystery to the point of excessively dragging it out?
Everything there is to know about his past has been uncovered -he simply has not much of a past -is that his crime !
It's as simple as that - how much pummelling does the media need to do with it- they drew out the Rev.Wright issue extensively! It's amazing people think Obama got a free pass on that - he got slaughtered with it for months and prevailed!
Regarding Ayers -WE KNOW all the facts! How much time does the media need to keep repounding the issue when there's an economic horror story in progress!
The McCanists are only upset they cannot nail Obama as an actual terrorist- their issue is not to claim Obama as not trustworthy by the friends he chose -they simply want to paint him as an unamerican terrorist in waiting -like a sleep cell agent.... its a strategy that's been pounded away with -along with much media coverage -why is there the crybaby thought that the Ayers episode is being ignored..... it's simply that the dirt with that topic is not sticking to Obama -simply because its only a case of Obama not caring about Ayers anti- American establishment opinions -he has no affiliation with Ayers views - the mCainists want to give that impression but it's a big scam - and the media is seeing that there is NO story with it.

Obama worked his ass off as a student - his mom drilled into him the need to be educated and disciplined- it's no mystery - Obama has stated how his mom worked him over on doing his homework- you can laugh, but parents putting in that kind of input make all the difference in their child's future life.

If you want to get into pointless sideline issues, why doesn't the media cover Palin's husbands affiliation with the Alaskan Inependance Party.
or Palin's blessings for the socialist program in her State regarding her endorsing "spreading the wealth/profits" of oil companies drilling there, with the Alaskan citizen - ie, dividend checks.
or- McCain and the Keating 5,
or McCain and association with Gordon Liddy
or the numerous flip flops mcCain has prescribed to now as a pseudo-right Conservative as opposed to his former Maverick centro-Republican self.
or- the McCain answer to the Acorn episode -regarding connections with the Lincoln Strategies Group and the YPM.
or why doesn't the Media pound McCain with the fact that Sam/Joe the unlicensed plumber would benefit under the Obama plan - contrary to what McCain is still rambling on in current speeches about after bring nation wide attention to a man who owes $1200 in taxes since Jan.2007
or why doesn't the media fully cover the serious rift amongst Repubs - being pro/con McCain in nature.

Pelosi made a dumb statement as do many McCain / Repub officials+ politicians -> getting equal minimal coverage time as befitting what else important is going on -> what makes more news- the stock market crashing or Pelosi's blame game occurring at the same time.
Did the media pound McCain for saying he was suspending his campaign prior to the first debte when he in actuality did not! -answer- a crisis was at hand AND coverage of the debate took prority.

What the point of journalists do in the media is far different from the roles played by editorial icons and late night show hosts do in picking sides. Journalists do in fact cover stories in a non-biased manner in the campaign. They cover the screw-ups of politicians to find out why they did those things - Obama gets coverage when he screws up- the fact is McCain and Palin and his campaign strategists are making more foul-ups lately and thus get more coverage from journalists to analyze. The rest of the media are picking sides favouring the Dems -possibly as payback for the way neo-cons and those in the Bush admin for 8 years chuckled while pounding the rightfully suspecting media as being un-American and unpatriotic for questioning the ludicrous Authorative-like stunts Cheney,Bush and cronies pulled on Americans.


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post 10/24/08 4:07pm
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Blitz, anyone who thinks the Obama/Ayers connection hasn't been THOROUGHLY investigated by the media, well, they simply haven't been paying attention.

It is pretty easy to get to the bottom of their relationship. One of the best sources for information will always be the local paper of record. If you hop on over to the Chicago Sun Times website, you can quickly find this story:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obam...ayers12.article

The key points that are worth thinking about comes from a timeline that can be constructed of the Ayers/Obama relationship.

Ayers and his wife were on the lam for 10 years. TWENTY-EIGHT years ago, they turned themselves in. She did some time. His trial ended due to misconduct at the highest levels of our government.

Look at how some of his co-conspirators have been treated, some have even been elected to public office! Now that's redemption.

By 1997, Ayers had reformed his ways to the point that he was honored at CHICAGO CITIZEN OF THE YEAR.

I don't know about you, but I certainly haven't contributed to society enough to garner anything near that kind of award. The best I ever did was employee of the month.

So, Obama meets a guy who is well known in the highest political circles in Chicago. The guy was a personal friend of the mayor for crying out loud. He was an education professor and they sat on boards together. The Woods Foundation only met FOUR times per year.

In 2001, Ayers publishes his book and now the nation reconnects with his past. You are hard pressed to find a much of an association between Ayers and Obama after 9/11. Whether you believe in redemption or not, this is a significant point in the timeline.

As for the other stuff you mentioned, I'm puzzled. Again, these stories have been covered. Once again, go to the local paper of record. In this case, it is the Boston Globe. It'll take you about two seconds to come up with this piece on Obama's time at Harvard:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/...unifying_voice/

When you read that story, pay attention to the number of people interviewed for the piece. The two reporters covered incredible ground, even interviewing Obama's former landlord. Hell, they even list the parking tickets he got during his time at Harvard!

Read about how he was selected to be president of the Law Review. When I was in college I ran for an editorship of our daily student newspaper. It wasn't nearly as intense as what he had to go through. In the end he had to convince 61 of his fellow editors to pick him out of a field of 19 candidates. I've heard an awful lot about the "favoritism" that must have been shown to Obama for him to succeed at Harvard. This story provides full evidence that that argument is BULLSHIT.

People who whine that the media doesn't do enough reporting on Obama are just plain wrong. It is a lot easier to sit back and complain than it is to go do your own research. If you actually look, you'll find that this guy has been thoroughly vetted.

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