KGB, KGB's way of Change! Options

[THE Mechanic]

I found this video to be quite chilling>

The way governments are destableised and reeducated over long periods of time.

A sort of brain washing of a population.The way they operate to gain full control of a population or government and then eliminate the very people who were used by the KGB to gain this control within that country.

Please watch the entire video its about 13 min long.In the latter parts of the video you may ask your self is this really happening here in the U.S.A.



http://www.heyokamagazine.com/heyoka.17.uribezmonov.htm



Your thoughts...."T.M."

[THE Mechanic]

Hellfighter,Wow..

Interesting point of veiw you have.a completely different angle proposed.I posted this over here and over there and the differences are remarkable.

Bargod wrote and excellent peice as well as MOD in responce to my post.

I would love to copy and paste.So you can see how they compare to yours.But i dont have in my heart to do that.Plagerise someone else's oppinions.

Hopefully bar could stop by and copy/paste.

I don't post to get arise out of folks.I enjoy reading everyone's oppinion and try to formulate abetter understanding of current events.Tempers seem to flare from time to time over debates.Over there.

Thats never my intentions..besides I can't write as well as most of you all..alittle slow..i guess..so i make a comment or post something to get ball rolling and ...WaLa..Duck for cover...LOL



"T.M."

[Hellfighter]

Hellfighter,Wow..

Interesting point of veiw you have.a completely different angle proposed.I posted this over here and over there and the differences are remarkable.

Bargod wrote and excellent peice as well as MOD in responce to my post.

I would love to copy and paste.So you can see how they compare to yours.But i dont have in my heart to do that.Plagerise someone else's oppinions.

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Thats never my intentions..besides I can't write as well as most of you all..alittle slow..i guess..so i make a comment or post something to get ball rolling and ...WaLa..Duck for cover...LOL
"T.M."

Feel free to post my post 'over there'- sign my HF name to it as credit. I'm sure my past-life brother- Captain Snot Rocket has been drooling to blast my posts after so long an absence at locking horns with me in similar debates

I'm pretty sure many 'over there' miss HFs distorted perspective rants. I can see them making those puzzled doggie twisted to side head postures when they try and figure out how I ramble into the 'interesting point of views' I'm getting infamous for now - bwahahaha

-ps. I'd like to see their replies to the post too thnx TM

[Bargod]

This was my response:

My thoughts are that we won the cold war. The Soviet Union fell. Who won the propaganda war? I'd say we did. I can't say it took 15 to 20 years, but democracy won.

How do I know? Well, we have a bunch of old Soviet states wanting to join NATO. This has Russia all up in arms and creating reasons to attack former Soviet States and potential future NATO allies.

It has Russia saying that if we install our missle shield in Poland they will put troops on the border (or whatever their recent threat was).

Also, the interviewee kept referring to the threat of communism/socialism and Marxism/Leninism, but what he was really referring to, if you take it in context, is Totalitarianism. We allow people free speech in our country, and he says things like Holloywood stars are targets because they can convince us to be sympathetic to the other side, well, history has proven that wrong time and time again. He offers up Jane Fonda as evidence of the success of the KGB infiltration and it's effect on us. Well, I grew up knowing Jane Fonda as the enemy. I'd say their attack failed.
What about teenagers today?
Well, they probably watched Team America and laughed at the charicatures of stupid liberal Hollywood and also will vote with their consciuos, not their oppinion of a celeb.

Anyway, that's my oppinion. I think it was a very interesting video. I'm sure this guy was saying a lot of things that were true. However, I think that even if the methods worked in other parts of the world they clearly didn't work here and can't work here.

If the KGB's goal was to make us question our government then perhaps we should thank them. Perhaps we should be glad that every 4 years we debate who should be running this country.

KGB had a good idea, but the wrong one to win the cold war. USA wins. We have more money and easier access to our natural resources. USSR just couldn't get it done. Too many different peoples to repress and keep from warring with each other and too much money needed to keep up with the US in the arms race.
Send us all the negative propaganda you want. We still will outspend you and our people will watch color TV and have MTV and wear parachute pants ('80's references).

Again, just my 2 pennies.