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Widow Maker
post 03/28/04 2:15pm
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I think the concept of Missionary is great but if you’re going to run it then mandate it and run it all the time. The way it is currently you are penalizing the honest players who run it and giving the hackers a bigger advantage then what the already had. What I mean by penalizing the honest players is this, when you run Missionary (at least this is my experience) you add a tremendous amount of lag and your frame rates go down the toilet. It plays like you were connected via a dialup modem instead of having a kick ass cable connection.

The bottom line is this, why would one want to degrade his game play so the cheaters keep on cheating and honest people like myself suffer by running Missionary.

The only way to making it an even playing field is to mandate Missionary all the time so everyone will have the same game play (lag) and no one will have the advantage.

I don't mind running Missionary but I would like equal game play.

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post 03/28/04 2:41pm
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From a earlier post....
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You'll never see me say missionary doesn't have issues. I think most people who use it have wanted to put their fist through their monitor atleast once ( I know I have ). Missionary is a work in progress, without people using it now, improvements would be much slower or never happen at all.
Any current missionary problems are far out-weighted by the cheat free gaming it provides. I'm sure some people disagree with me and thats fine, everyone is welcome to their opinion.
Missionary isn't mandatory most of the time but like the server message says, without it expect people to assume you cheat. As we move forward with missionary it will be mandatory more often. At some point, people will either decide to support it or find another server. I'm sure we will probably lose a few good players who do think it's is to much of a hassle. For those players all I can say is when you do find a new server and someone is blatantly hacking, just remember you made the choice to play were cheating is allowed.
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If we just switch to missionary as you suggest it will kill the server.
Missionary will only be successful as more people use it.
Think of it as a domino effect. When non-missionary user's see more people using it, hopefully it will make them give it a try.
When a regulars like you makes the choice not to use missionary, it only makes it that much harder to run the server as Missionary only.

Right now we don't have enough regulars supporting it. So we are left with a couple of choices on how to gently force more people to use it. All of these choices are to make sure there are empty spots on the server for those who are willing to support cheat free play.
1) Randomly kicking non-missionary users several times a day.
2) Switching the server to Missionary only without warning, there by kicking anyone who doesn't use it. BTW after you get kicked 5 times, you're automatically banned and will be unable to play until someone manually removes your ban. Most likely this means you'll be banned for the day.
3) Randomly forwarding non-missionary players to Wiseguys.
4) This is a funny one but it would a great way to get the point across. Randomly forwarding non-missionary players to one of the servers that open support cheating.

We will deciding what option we will use in the next few days.
Once we decided we will give everyone fair warning.

For those who want to claim problems with missionary as a reason not to use it.
I can only guess you missed to 100 messages a day in the server asking you to post if you had problems so we could try and help you.


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Widow Maker   Missionary, My Thoughts   03/28/04 2:15pm
Blakjak   Actually Widow your thoughts are exactly mine, and...   03/28/04 2:28pm
Druid   From a earlier post.... --------------------------...   03/28/04 2:41pm
Panzer   Unfuckingreal...I completely agree with you Druid....   03/28/04 2:49pm
Blakjak   Druid, believe I completely agree with you and am ...   03/28/04 2:52pm
realdeal   Don't be sorry Blak, I will make it really e...   03/28/04 2:58pm
Blakjak   Ok, if that is how you want to go about this, it i...   03/28/04 3:23pm
realdeal   We need to push Missionary.. if our regulars stop ...   03/28/04 3:24pm
Epacy   Don't be sorry Blak, I will make it really ea...   03/28/04 3:39pm
Blakjak   I just reinstalled and will try to use it. I unde...   03/28/04 3:39pm
Panzer   Blakjak, I haven't had any problems with Missi...   03/28/04 4:44pm
Blakjak   Panzer I just played with it not 10 minutes ago bu...   03/28/04 4:48pm
Widow Maker   Druid/Panzer I fully understand what you are tryin...   03/28/04 5:35pm
Johnzillah   What kind of system do you have? I have lag when ...   03/28/04 5:37pm
Aggression   My framerate drops drastically when I run missiona...   03/28/04 5:40pm
realdeal   No.   03/28/04 5:52pm
Mayhem   Almost 86% of the people who voted are in favor of...   03/28/04 6:05pm
Druid   For the people complaining about the lag being so ...   03/28/04 6:37pm
Widow Maker   Druid, thanks for the tips I'll see if this he...   03/28/04 7:01pm
Blakjak   Yes, good tips druid, thanks. My main problem is ...   03/28/04 7:40pm
H@rley   I have tried the shutdown processes a few times bu...   03/28/04 8:37pm
Ice_Cold   Heres my thought MISSIONARY ROCKS.   03/29/04 6:33pm
Kirby   I think most problems of missionary are solved by ...   03/30/04 12:48am
Hard Drive   Well said Kirby.   03/30/04 8:26am


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