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[realdeal]

This is a video of a suicide. It happened recently in NY and is true. The girl just broke up with her boyfriend and he was apparently upset about it. The video can be viewed

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IF you don't beleive it's true you can ready the story

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The man's mother is suing the city for leaking the tape.

[Kirby]

Ow goodie I started a debate? Actually I just put up a quick link to show comparisons of countries showing less die with more strict control over weapons. Lets get real, you dont neek a AK47 to go hunting with, unless your heading to the postoffice hehe. If I lived in the USA, where there is no effective gun control, I would likely have one myself. I had 3 guns when I was a teenager, just for target shooting. But when they clamped down on rifles and I had to get them registered I sold them all once I relocated to the city. The fact is that in the US, there are so many around no control advocate can make any difference. You have to go with the flow. Over here like I said different matter, so you dont need any weapons.

I live on the border, and there are a lot of Americans retireing over this way buying homes. Sure your money is worth more, but if you talk to some of these guys they say they like it over this way. The crime rate in this area is near nil so you dont have to guess why. I know thats the case too however with some areas in the US, outside of the citys. More people in one area more crime. Main crime over this way near by is in Toronto. The highest percentage of that is caused by Immigration not effectively doing background checks before allowing citizenship to new people settling in Canada from other countries.

Statistics wise I beleive has to be based on the culture of the country and population. We can't compare China with the USA. Your a king if you own a bicycle in China, let alone a gun. Japans culture is totally different than ours or the US. There primary focus seems to be education. I don't think we can compare those countries with low gun death rates to our western civilization and standard of living.

Canada has a population of over 30 thousand, while the USA has almost 300 million now, but we have about the same land mass. So of course Canada is going to have more effect over gun control. I believe in the USA state to state regulations on guns are different while here it is the same. That makes a difference also.

KIRBY A GUN CONTROL ADVOCATE IN CANADA ? Yep I sure am, but thats in Canada. I agree on strict regulations for owning a gun in Canada. There is no need for every home to have a weapon to protect its owners here. WHY ? I can say that in 4 words, words that do not apply in the USA.... " It's not too late " Canada nipped the problem in the butt before it became a major problem. If you come across the border into Canada, one of the first things Customs ask is " are you bringing in a firearm?" But if you go from Canada to the USA, you usually don't get asked that question. If you come into Canada with a firearm, Customs will hold it for you at the border until you return to your country. If you lie, you do not pass go and you do not collect $200.00, basically off to jail or you are deported with a record and likely you will not be able to come back into Canada anylonger.

KIRBY A GUN CONTROL ADVOCATE IN USA ? No way, Real if I lived in the USA, Heston would be my hero. I beleive he is totally right. Why? It is too late for the USA to change its ways. Why? You's follow your grandpappys outlook way back in the 1800's "The right to bare arms etc" well thats fine when there were Indians out in them woods. Problem is you carried old ideals into the 20th century and now its caught up to yous with the point of no return. Its so breed into your culture nothing is going to change it. And if I were living there I would have one big fine gun rack with AK47 way down the line. To tell you the truth I sill love weapons, for the sport of it.

Hell all I had to do in Windsor was drive over that bridge to Detroit, go under it to the Exxon gas station and ask the guy with the Malcom X hat for pretty well any weapon I wanted. But if I were caught coming back with it, was not worth the hassle but yes I do like weapons and if your responsible, you should be able to own a weapon. I am referring not to assault weapons or handguns here, just target rifles, or technical term in Customs book, long guns. Totally different set of rules with long guns as apposed to hand guns. When I got my gas in Detroit after midnight shift (your gas was cheaper) the attendent would come out with baseball bat at times because there was always some black dude hanging in the back trying to sell gold chains to us big dumb Canadians walking up to the car. They were fake of course. But it was just a precaution I guess. Of couse you can't compare Detroit with other citys in USA, it had a class all its own. But when I went back over that bridge it was a totally different environment.

Statistic wise, dont know there Druid. Would they really bother to mislead statistics without favor? I would think they would do it the other way around and tone down any gun problems, that would make you think it was less of a problem then it would appear to promote tourism etc from other countries.

Anyway, other statistics, drownings etc. Again based on culture. I would think a good portion is from pool accidents. Riots? and disasters? Well I would say the homeowner here would be standing outside with Mr. Baseball bat not a gun. In the States, well yes it makes sense guys gonna stand with a gun.

Anyway in a nutshell, Gun control is out of control it seems in the US. Over here it never had a chance to reach that point. I agree with your USA philosophy and I would likely have one (depending where I lived of couse) in the US.

Druid your comments make sense on states below with breakdown. 19 year olds are not kids, there are guys over in Iraq that age. Maybe I should not had posted that link ay?