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post 04/12/04 10:42pm
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This is a video of a suicide. It happened recently in NY and is true. The girl just broke up with her boyfriend and he was apparently upset about it. The video can be viewed

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IF you don't beleive it's true you can ready the story

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The man's mother is suing the city for leaking the tape.





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post 04/14/04 1:01am
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QUOTE (Blakjak @ Apr 13 2004, 04:42 PM)
Should people be able to own hand guns and hunting rifles-by all means.  Should I be able to get a license for a ak-47 and cop killer hollow points- please.

Another fine example of the media hype surrounding the gun control issue.
I'm willing to bet EVERYBODY has heard the term "Cop Killer bullets"
Guess what? No such thing has ever existed nor has there ever been a single report of a police officer being killed by a "Cop Killer"
1st off, hollow points are not what has hyped by the media and government as "Cop Killer Bullets"
Here is a history lesson for anyone who wants it.
Myth
The myth of "Cop Killer Bullets" started in 1982 from a news story done by NBC. In the news story they showed how criminals ( mainly related to the drug world )where using bullets designed to penetrate the bullet-proof vests commonly worn by police officers.
Fact
The bullets commonly referred to as cop killers was originally designed by 3 men in 1966. Kopsch, Turcos and Ward in fact the bullet were named as KTW bullets, after the initials of the three men who invented them.
So we know who originally designed the so-called cop-killers. They must be some drug lords or crime kingpins, well actually they are Dr. Kopsch an an Ohio coroner, Turcos and Ward were both police officers. They designed the KTW bullets for specific use by the earliest S.W.A.T. teams. The special "Cop-Killer" bullets are nothing more than a normal pistol round which uses a brass or iron core in place of the standard lead core. The KTW bullet has a conical shape, and was especially designed for shooting through glass or a car door. They have never been available to the public and there has never been a single case of a police officer being killed by one, yet they are still known to most americans as "Cop-killers"
In in 1995 President Clinton announced his support for a massive new ban on many ordinary types of ammunition. In the speech, President Clinton spoke emotionally about a Chicago police officer who had been fatally shot because a "cop-killer" bullet penetrated his vest. When a reporter investigated the officers death, it turned out he was killed by a gunshot to the head.

BTW in 1982 Law enforcement officials had asked NBC not to air the program as the use of body armor by police officers was still not common knowledge and the "KTW" ammunition was virtually unheard of outside law enforcement circles. The safety of law enforcement officers took a back seat to ratings at NBC however and they not only broadcast the show, but re-broadcast it again six months later.


Myth
Teflon bullets are more deadly then normal bullets.
Teflon bullets are now associated with the Cop-Killer myth, partly in thanks to a scene from the movie Lethal Weapon 3
Fact
Actually, a Teflon coating is applied to the outside of a wide variety of ordinary ammunition. Teflon reduces the lead abrasion caused by the bullet's movement down the barrel of the gun. Thus, the barrel is kept cleaner, and is protected from excessive wear.

Myth
The 1994 Crime Bill and ban on assault weapons has made america safer.
The whole problem with the assault weapons ban is most people don't have a clue what it is about. Those who favor the assault weapons ban often use the rhetoric about no one needs an machine gun for self defense.
Fact
Fully automatic weapons have been banned and closely regulated since 1934.
Did you miss the date.... 1934 as in 70 years ago.
The guns effected by the "Assault Weapons Ban" are nothing more than semi-automatic replicas of military weapons. Many of them use the exact same ammunition used by other legal firearms. They are no more dangerous or deadly then any other type of gun. For the most part the two issues held against them are the way they look and their over sized magazines.
Proponents of the assault weapons ban try to claim the law had a huge impact on the number of gun related crimes, yet the ATF statistics show these types of weapons where involved in less than 3% of gun related crimes before the ban took effect.

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realdeal   WARNING! GRAPHIC VIOLENCE   04/12/04 10:42pm
Col. Mustard   i think this topic should be removed. if the webs...   04/12/04 11:02pm
realdeal   Thank you for your opinion Col Mustard, wus. Sinc...   04/12/04 11:04pm
Col. Mustard   then the title should say GRAPHIC VIOLENCE. graph...   04/12/04 11:06pm
realdeal   IMO, the video below is worse!!! But...   04/12/04 11:14pm
Kirby   Well its a good argument for gun control. Had he n...   04/13/04 12:02am
realdeal   Actually Kirby, you make a really good point (for ...   04/13/04 12:09am
Panzer   Mustard are you kidding me? Give me a break...you...   04/13/04 12:18am
Col. Mustard   Panazer you didnt understand my post. it wasnt me...   04/13/04 12:36am
Kirby   It's funny, nothing against the USA, but when ...   04/13/04 12:48am
realdeal   However, there was the description..... ...   04/13/04 12:56am
Col. Mustard   RD you missed my point as well. MY CONCERN IS THE...   04/13/04 1:03am
realdeal   I DONT KNOW I DONT KNOW I DONT KNOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW...   04/13/04 1:24am
Kirby   Just a quick afterthought.... maybe pull the link ...   04/13/04 2:10am
Druid   WooHoo A debate on gun control. I love it, I love,...   04/13/04 3:35am
Epacy   Was that your father or something Mustard?   04/13/04 7:49am
realdeal   Nice Druid, some good points there. KIRBY CLICK...   04/13/04 8:50am
Druid   I highly doubt you will find anyone in L.A. during...   04/13/04 9:38am
Soul Assassins   Well, I live in the South Guns down here are as co...   04/13/04 9:44am
Kirby   Ow goodie I started a debate? Actually I just put ...   04/13/04 1:00pm
Soul Assassins   The greatest thing about canada, Weed laws.   04/13/04 1:04pm
Kirby   Ow one last note, yes they do through background c...   04/13/04 1:24pm
Kirby   Ow ya the petty crimes weed, just a cheaper form o...   04/13/04 1:29pm
Kirby   last week they banned baby walkers in Canada, no k...   04/13/04 1:35pm
Silver   if i can without upsetting anyone, i would like to...   04/13/04 3:58pm
Soul Assassins   "guns dont kill people people kill people...   04/13/04 4:06pm
Kirby   Well I am right next to Buffalo across Lake Erie C...   04/13/04 4:57pm
Blakjak   What I find most interesting about this whole gun ...   04/13/04 5:42pm
realdeal   After several emails I have received, one in parti...   04/13/04 6:58pm
Silver   you dont need cop killers to kill cops you may nee...   04/13/04 8:20pm
Blakjak   I'm sorry but silver I think your argument is ...   04/13/04 9:13pm
Panzer   So basically, we have a lot of vaginas who read th...   04/13/04 9:26pm
Blakjak   I don't believe it's ever been insinuated ...   04/13/04 9:29pm
Col. Mustard   i wasnt the one who said it gives people ideas.   04/13/04 9:37pm
Druid   Another fine example of the media hype surroundin...   04/14/04 1:01am
Panzer   God damn, Druid...I guess you do! You got my ...   04/14/04 1:03am
Soul Assassins   Druid is spitting some fucking knowledge.. Hey Dr...   04/14/04 10:07am
Druid   LOL I'm going to take a guess here and say Myt...   04/14/04 10:36am
Kirby   Interesting reading, I remember using hollow tips ...   04/14/04 10:40am
Kirby   I would assume requirements such as this bill outl...   04/14/04 10:43am
Silver   naive? ok...in suburbia the police respond instan...   04/14/04 11:28am
Soul Assassins   LOL Kirby. SHredder shells were supposedly explo...   04/14/04 11:31am
Silver   p.s. those are tefflon coated bvp stops a hollow...   04/14/04 11:32am
Panzer   With all of this talk about bills & laws I fee...   04/14/04 11:55am
Druid   LOL   04/14/04 1:02pm
Silver   my god its been years since i saw that!!...   04/14/04 4:47pm
Blakjak   Druid I am truly humbled lol, thank you. Yes, I r...   04/14/04 5:45pm
Silver   question#1- yes... if it was to be debated by an a...   04/14/04 11:25pm
Silver   having a talk like this in this type of enviroment...   04/14/04 11:29pm
Druid   I'm not positive but I would assume the law c...   04/15/04 1:07am
Silver   now see if we legalize weed there would be no viol...   04/15/04 7:57am
Soul Assassins   Damn right. ! Free CHONG!   04/15/04 9:29am
Kirby   Over here (Canada) they were attempting to not leg...   04/15/04 11:08am
Silver   kirby, i seen on the news were there was a bill ...   04/15/04 12:26pm
Druid   I'm waiting for the day when America wakes up ...   04/15/04 12:32pm
Panzer   Just out of curiosity Druid, do you think that num...   04/15/04 12:36pm
Soul Assassins   THe war on drugs is and will be never ending consi...   04/15/04 12:53pm
Druid   Absolutely not. The money spent on the drug war...   04/15/04 1:20pm
Kirby   Beleive me de-criminalizing pot wont happen haha. ...   04/15/04 3:11pm
Blakjak   As a 17 year old Druid I can confirm that article ...   04/15/04 9:15pm
Silver   ok cool, being 24 and being in the transportation ...   04/15/04 10:28pm
Independent   Heehee, You said vagina   04/19/04 3:20am
Erich Topp <U-552>   Easily amused guy Whiger, yes females have a apert...   04/19/04 10:39am
realdeal   That's for sure... I remember my 1st porn mo...   04/19/04 7:36pm
little old man   Where you in it or watching {w1 {w1 {w1 {w1   04/19/04 8:23pm
realdeal   I was watching it... damn... when I was finally ...   04/19/04 9:08pm
Silver   thats funny :blink:   04/19/04 9:27pm
Kirby   You got to be careful when your polishing that thi...   04/19/04 9:40pm
Phat Boy   that shit was some scary shit kind of disturbing.....   05/13/04 6:46pm
Phat Boy   lmao RD...way to put it to mustard. if u cant hand...   05/13/04 6:51pm
Epacy   Damn, thought he was gone for good.   05/13/04 7:10pm


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