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post 06/27/04 7:29pm
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Unfortunately some forget, others may simply put it out of their mind since it's been almost 3 years now. But please take a look at the links below to remind yourself.

FIRST PLANE HITS THE WORLD TRADE CENTER


SECOND PLANE HITS THE WORLD TRADE CENTER

EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE OF SECOND PLANE HITTING THE WORLD TRADE CENTER

CNN RECAP OF 9/11


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post 10/09/04 8:07pm
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I am new here, and this appears to be older thread but I felt like I had to say something.

Why are we at war against terrorism. I start with a quote.

"The seeds of totalitarian regimes are nurtured by misery and want. They spread and grow in the evil soil of poverty and strife. They reach their full growth when the hope of a people for a better life has died. We must keep that hope alive.
The free peoples of the world look to us for support in maintaining their freedoms.
If we falter in our leadership, we may endanger the peace of the world -- and we shall surely endanger the welfare of our own nation.
Great responsibilities have been placed upon us by the swift movement of events.
I am confident that the Congress will face these responsibilities squarely."
Truman Doctrine 1947

The words spoken here are true today as they were true in Truman's day. Change totalitarianism to terrorism.

Islam is the worlds only major religion that has not undergone reform (except for maybe become more militant and oppressive) This war is between the old and the new. The Middle East struggles to hold onto old obsolete ideas while the world around them is evolving. The lack of freedom and liberty in the Middle East is the main cause for the rise of terrorism. They hate the fact that we have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and that woman are eqal to men. They are taught to hate and kill the infadels or the people who do not agree with their twisted religion. They oppress their people and blame Western Culture for demise. The only hope they give their people is that if they strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves up or hijack planes and use them as missiles, and to walk besides allah in paradise with their 72 virgins.
I believe that the only hope for peace is to destroy militant Islam and show Arabs that there is a better way and a better life through freedom, liberty, and capitolism.

Did you know the average unemployment rate of Arab countries in 20-30 percent.
Take the U.S. and Japan.
U.S. avg rate what 5.7% 5.4 right now
Japan avg rate about 5% 4.9 right now

France and Germany are a cross between socialism and capitolism.
France and Germany have avg unemployment rates of about 9% on a good day

I believe if the Arab people had some freedom, liberty, and capitolism they would spend more time working and living life and less time to think about how to kill infadels.

We are in the middle of WW4. it will be long and bloddy and many will die on both side. It may be a generation or 2 before we see the outcome of this battle. But I believe we need to fight this battle now and on the turf.

We cannot count on some of our traditional allies. I've always believed that Western Europe was our closest allies, in spite of some cultural differences. But it is now clear from the oil for food fiasco that our so called allies such as France have been aiding and arming our enemies and undermininding American interests. I no longer believe that some traditional allies (the ones Jon Kerry thinks he can bring on board) should no longer be considered allies.


As for the comments on social issues such as healthcare, welfare, and schools you need to take a hard look at the Constitution. And if you have a hard time understanding its intent you need to take a look at the Federalist papers. %85 of the principles in the Fed papers are in the Constitution and are the best source in learning the intent of the founders when composing the Constitution. When I was in school they barely went over the Constitution and did not even mention the Federalist papers.

I think someone said that if you can't make it in your own then you are screwed. I hate break it to you but the whole purpose are designed so that people can make it on their own without the govenment. If you believe that govenment is supposed to take care of you then you live in the country. If you believe that it is governments responsibility to take care of you tan you probably do not believe in the Constitution or the principles and values on which it was founded.

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realdeal   Why we are at war against terrorism   06/27/04 7:29pm
futureman   no words to describe that.   06/27/04 7:35pm
lithium   You right Real. We will never forget Mr. Bush for ...   07/27/04 4:05pm
SFC ROSCOE   You right Real. We will never forget Mr. Bush for...   11/06/06 3:37pm
DIESEL   are u for fucking real Lith...go ahead and vote ...   07/27/04 4:13pm
.AmbiencE.   God Damn Liberals. :fing   07/27/04 5:15pm
realdeal   This is from another post I made: I hope you...   07/27/04 5:21pm
Stockguy   I agree with you real. I think that it was the Cli...   07/27/04 6:01pm
Druid   Sorry Lithium but thats one of the dumbest thing...   07/28/04 1:19pm
eulogy   again im just 16 i didnt know all that you guys ...   07/28/04 1:38pm
DIESEL   but of course everyone is allowed an opion...thank...   07/28/04 3:10pm
lithium   I had a feeling Real that you will try to deflect ...   07/28/04 3:41pm
Silver   ok i didnt vote for bush or clinton last time. i...   07/28/04 4:21pm
realdeal   I think it's the other way around. You blam...   07/28/04 6:27pm
eulogy   d. i think your right.. no one is lookin out for ...   07/28/04 6:37pm
Silver   i dont think anyone trys to help anyone. republica...   07/28/04 7:14pm
lithium   This was your openning line of your reply to my ...   07/29/04 10:43am
realdeal   This was your openning line of your reply to my ...   07/29/04 10:49am
Blakjak   I don't understand why people blame Clinton an...   07/29/04 1:13pm
Druid   Lithium that would of been me. There is a rather b...   07/29/04 1:44pm
lithium   My bad Real. Disregard what I said about name-call...   07/29/04 4:50pm
Da_Rat   Great Work Guys.........FUCK Kerry the long face f...   09/18/04 5:43pm
Hard Drive   Druid quote: I just get tired of all the finger po...   09/18/04 10:47pm
Silver   better then the war on drugs :)   09/18/04 11:57pm
Hard Drive   I dont see it.   09/19/04 1:19am
Bargod   If you want to get REALLY technical about it, what...   09/19/04 3:53am
holden_caulfield   You make a good point, but I think the formal diss...   02/02/05 8:32pm
Druid   Wow I'm very impessive Bargod. Your a little o...   09/19/04 5:29am
Silver   we can never win the war on drugs, we dont have ...   09/19/04 12:42pm
Char   I am new here, and this appears to be older thread...   10/09/04 8:07pm
Ghslongpole14   Yeah, before anybody says anything, I know this is...   10/28/04 6:45pm
Ghslongpole14   Sorry if that offends any people in particular bec...   10/28/04 6:49pm
Silver   look at the way the brittish left isreal, in a hel...   02/02/05 9:05pm
Oh You   -Silver That exact quote would make just as mu...   04/06/06 9:34pm
Silver   -Silver That exact quote would make just as m...   04/06/06 11:06pm
Rommel   Unfortunately some forget, others may simply put ...   05/04/06 6:14am
FeezyWeezy   You know that I never say anything about War on Te...   05/04/06 9:46am
Hellfighter   I'd go a step further; Create an even economic...   05/04/06 11:20am
Radiation   .   05/04/06 12:27pm
Crazy Canuck   Death solves all problems, no man... no problem -...   05/04/06 1:42pm
Silver   feezy how can you comment on western ideals from w...   05/04/06 4:18pm
FeezyWeezy   I said Western world, WESTERN...thats US, CANADA, ...   05/04/06 4:36pm
Silver   just so you know that wsnt directed at you (even t...   05/04/06 5:24pm
Lord Lipton   okay, am i diggin up old soil? yes probably. but ...   05/04/06 7:50pm
Hellfighter   I don't think Anti-Bush = anti american.... 68...   05/05/06 9:41am
dienamic   Let me see here..... [b]I have to say, keep in mi...   05/05/06 5:50pm
Hellfighter   Wrong. Since you asked though...... I see your p...   05/05/06 8:13pm
dienamic   I just pulled some stuff outta your post man to ma...   05/05/06 10:19pm
Hellfighter   I........ Now saying all that, again I meant yo...   05/06/06 9:31am
Churchill   like Churchill's misgivings about the Fascists...   06/01/06 9:04pm
CommanderChoth   I'm not a huge fan of reading to see if I am b...   06/01/06 10:41pm
Jerry Lewis   Hello, Having worked at the WTC site after the at...   10/21/06 8:36am
Glyn Gardner   Hello, Having worked at the WTC site after the a...   11/07/06 10:35am
Hellfighter   Just some food for thought. We all know the ...   11/08/06 1:09pm
gone2lake   my political party shall remain anonymous. i will...   01/29/07 11:31am
Hellfighter   I wonder if that's the battle hymn for the i...   01/30/07 7:33pm
gone2lake   I wonder if that's the battle hymn for the ...   01/31/07 4:06pm
Hellfighter   ..... ok, we'll have to agree to disagree. ...   02/02/07 4:50pm


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