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M@ster of Dis@ster
post 02/20/06 9:13am
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Just a question for admins. Are you finding that the Smolensk map is properly balanced? I wish there was a stat to see what the overall score was (base kills) between German versus Russian, and actuall victories (all three bases blown by one team). I assume admins have access to such a stat, and hoping they'll share it.

I haven't played that much, but I'd guess if there was a "balance" issue, it would be the Germans that have the advantage. Not sure if others would agree. I just find the Russian spawn to be so far from their bases, and 2 is so exposed, 1 has that backway in for the Germans through the tunnels, and well, you can almost forget about 3!!! flamethrowingsmiley.gif

The big German weakness as I see it is how easy it can be to get to their main spawn and steal their tanks and make life miserable there for them, and how hard it is for them to come back and retake it since it is so open. Still, I think life is easier for them to defend bases, especially when falling back in a hurry.

I also get the impression draws are going to be less than Barbarossa. With the map so wide open and 3 ways to most places, plus spawn points that aren't that close to any base, throwing up a wall of defence will be difficult.

Anyway, don't get me wrong. I LOVE this new map! But just wondering if people are monitoring the balance issue, or has this already been tested and is this a FINAL version with no more tweaks?

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Cpt.Canuck
post 02/21/06 9:51am
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QUOTE(M@ster of Dis@ster @ 02/20/06 10:33pm) *



Your points about defence and strategy are excellent EXCEPT for one thing. Who does this stuff? Are there lots of people on ventrilo, because otherwise, I never see this huge strategy stuff be implemented except by chance. For example, IF you get a few tanks moving together, great, but I never see it planned, organzied, then implemented. If you had 6 people on defence at all positions at all times that'd be great too I suppose, but I never see it. Usually when I type in a few strategy ideas 95% of the time I get two responses...

1. "No sir!"

2. Nothing

For example, a few times in Barbossa in extremely long, no time limit games when everyone was stuck I tried several times to get people to move tanks to gather at our last remaining base, then push forward. No matter that we'd been stuck for almost 2 hours. No one listened, and no one gathered at the base (there was one guy on D). OK, that's fine. I don't bother trying that stuff anymore. I use quick commands like "fall back", "Move in", "attack right flank" and "attack left flank" only in the hope that perhaps one or two people might join in the manoveur, but generally I know most people are just trying to stay alive, move to one objective...defence, offence, protect one area...without dying, and if they meet up with someone going to the same are then great.





This isn't the maps fault tho, is it? huh.gif

Smolensk requires A LOT more strategy than Barb (especially defensively)... I think eventually we'll all get the hang of it and the matches will improve even more. However, I think the MOB rulers should still seriously consider the CNQ option...


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M@ster of Dis@ster   Smolensk balanced?   02/20/06 9:13am
Cpt.Canuck   From the rounds that I have played, I haven't ...   02/20/06 10:30am
Slyk   Good topic. Initially, I thought there may be bal...   02/20/06 11:49am
M@ster of Dis@ster   [quote name='Slyk' date='02/20/06 12:4...   02/20/06 10:33pm
Slyk   Your points about defence and strategy are exce...   02/21/06 9:15am
Silver   2 problems with map.... the pak gun by the cat tai...   02/20/06 12:12pm
Slyk   Map is final. No changes to come. There are seve...   02/20/06 1:14pm
Silver   Map is final. No changes to come. There are sev...   02/20/06 7:34pm
UNDEAD 1   [quote name='Slyk' date='02/20/06 1:14...   02/22/06 5:42am
FeezyWeezy   Hey Slyk, I found this and I wonder if it was supo...   02/20/06 2:39pm
Slyk   Nope. Victim of map size. Missed it as it croppe...   02/20/06 4:36pm
Hellfighter   Remember when the first Barb came out and most of ...   02/21/06 4:23am
Cpt.Canuck   Your points about defence and strategy are exc...   02/21/06 9:51am
ScrapyardBob   You might see a CNQ test in the near future... (if...   02/21/06 11:01am
Druid   Smolensk is currently running in CNQ   02/21/06 11:07am
Druid   Ok I'm the first to admit I can be an idiot. T...   02/21/06 12:24pm
Slyk   Ok I'm the first to admit I can be an idiot. ...   02/22/06 7:20am
ScrapyardBob   I'm starting to think it's the Russian sid...   02/25/06 8:19am
Cpt.Canuck   I'm starting to think it's the Russian si...   02/25/06 9:50am
Hellfighter   Anyone else noticing a pattern? The opposite? ...   02/27/06 10:38am
ScrapyardBob   Note: Because of the German blitz at the start of ...   02/25/06 8:31am


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