what its all about, whats its all about Options

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

............After all, it is all his fault that people built a city in LA that was under the water level, .......

A typo of course...... . But we'll blame Bush if there's a cataclysmic earthquake inLA.

LA is the USA Postal Service acronym for Lousiana. Everyone in the US knows this. My apologies to you Canadians, eh!

[Hellfighter]

............After all, it is all his fault that people built a city in LA that was under the water level, .......

A typo of course...... . But we'll blame Bush if there's a cataclysmic earthquake inLA.

LA is the USA Postal Service acronym for Lousiana. Everyone in the US knows this. My apologies to you Canadians, eh!

whoooooops!!!!!
that's embarassng------>
sorry 'bout dat Snottty.R, eh!
I'm in Q.C..... no, not the Queen's Country....> Quebec

None of this is appropriate in a clan's forums, nor does it do anything but divide us when it has nothing to do with gaming. I have never seen one of these forum arguments result in anything more than hurt feelings on both sides of any argument.

Many of us forum dweller's echo Pez's opinion too. Debate's are a mainstay of these 'discussion oriented' topic forums. Seeing various points of view is healthy and readers can possibly acquire the art of respecting other's viewpoints even though not agreeing with it. Some of us chums here have found each other's opinions as different as night and day but we're still chums. It's like I respect your conclusion but I don't agree that's an absolute truth - from my point of view.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 10/31/06 12:15pm

[Kleerance]

If you are worried that increase in demand inflates prices consider this fact. Iron Ore, Coal, Tungsten, and Copper prices are nearly the same now than the 70's. Of course demand for these products has absolutely skyrocketed. So why has the price remained low? Because when there is demand, people produce. The oil pricing is controled by a illegal agreement among the OPEC nations. Unfortunetly, they control a huge percentage of the current oil flow. This will change when the other oil reserves hit the market.

You obviously have no belief in the market...If the prices on precious metals don't go up as the demand "has skyrocketed" as you put it - its because the offer side can deliver! Thats because there are no obvious shortage of these commodities.

I agree about the OPEC. They have power to "manipulate" prices to a certain extent because of the Saudi-Arabian big market share. But the fact is that there aren't enough proven oil reserves out there (anywhere) to keep up with the upcoming demand - despite of what you claim Snot Rocket. There has not been any significant new oil fields since the 80's, and the "new technology" stuff is purely guesswork. Every big oil company is now downgrading its reserves (Shell, Exxon, Statoil, BP). USA is not down in Iraq just for the fun of it. Oil is a big issue here.



To Steel: Debating is not tearing people apart. It's a democratic thing and is enlightning people. If the banner says "War on terror" I expect debating - not propaganda. I love a good debate - and I Iove to hear other peoples opinion. You can't expect that every man out there agree with you in every matter. But thats OK for me (and for everybody else I hope). I love a good debate. It makes the world go round....

[Stryker9]

Oil could be a thing of the past if things like this come about:

http://cbs11tv.com/watercooler/watercooler...302100324.html/


JIM

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

I disagree Kleerance. You say the there is an oil shortage, I say not. I am not convinced that the presence of oil in the ground is in short supply. The oil prices would be far lower than what they are now if OPEC did not limit production. To emphasize my point, OPEC just called an "Emergency Session" to limit production to increase prices.

There are scientists who believe that it may be possible that oil is actually produced by the earth. This is based on once empty wells suddely being able to pump again. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/crispin8.html

How about those Oil and Gas reserves that are "Decreasing"?

"Adelman notes that in 1944, a special expert mission estimated Persian Gulf reserves at 16 billion proved and 5 billion probable. By 1975, those same fields had produced 42 billion barrels and had 74 billion remaining. In 1984, geologists estimated a five percent probability of another 199 billion barrels remaining to be added in the Gulf region. In five years those reserves had already been added. (Adelman, 1993)."


How about China http://english.people.com.cn/200601/18/eng...118_236307.html

Australia http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=35281

And more http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/3unconventional.html

Most of the oil in Alaska, Russia and China has not even been drilled yet.

Yes, I am well aware that falsly reported reserves can help ensure funding for exploration. An no, I don't think there is an unlimited supply of oil that will last forever.

But let's deal with facts and not the media hyperbole that "we are running out of oil and the world is coming to an end."

Regards,

Your MOB Brother

[pezking]

I think there might be a shortage of "known" oil. Once we find the door to Narnia, all our problems will be solved.

[Kleerance]

<H2 align=left>Hey Snot-Rocket,</H2>

We obviously have different sources, and only time will tell. We can place our bets at the markets eh?

The tread is war on terror, and in my opinion oil is one significant reason for USA presence in Iraq.(And of course the war against terror.)USA have to be attended where 60-70% of the worlds oilreserves are, just to secure a safe supply in the future.

R4. Oil Discovery minus Consumption (world)

The really important statistic about discovery is shown here as the difference between what the world discovers and what it consumes. Until 1980 (with the exception of 1972), we had been discovering more than we used. Since then, the trend has gone into negative and we are eating away at our stores of oil. As discovery is expected to continue to fall and consumption rise, it can only get worse.

[Jack]

{pezking} I don't care about your political beliefs or your opinions, but please... if you're going to represent Virginia, learn how to spell and punctuate. It's just embarrassing. BTW, you need to update yourself on where we get oil, it's not just Iraq. Please go back to school. [/quote] SO then why are you in this forum if you dont care about my opinion or political beliefs do you just jump ito them to find some kinda fault with someones spellin? or just anything you can leave a smart ass comment about? seems obvious to me how about YOU?

look i know im a bad at typen but i thought we were all friends here so no one would mind but i guess i was wrong so heres a idea 4 you dont read any of my post Son



This post has been edited by Jack: 11/02/06 8:14am

[pezking]

Dude, I was just busting your balls. It's not like you peed on me or something.

[Jack]

Oh well im sure iv seen people use this before j/k

am i right or am i right no big deal then as you were move along nothing to see here

[T/A6Pak]

How about those Argo's??????

[Hellfighter]

How about those Argo's??????

hey there 6pak- Maybe the U.S. folks here think you're talking about the latest adventures of Jason and the argonauts, and unknowingly not about our canadian football league team the Toronto Argos.....

So 'How bout da Steelers...woo woo woooo!!'


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 11/05/06 2:02pm

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

How about those Argo's??????

Did'nt my boy "Rocket" Ismael play for the Argo's a few years back?

[Hellfighter]

How about those Argo's??????

Did'nt my boy "Rocket" Ismael play for the Argo's a few years back?

yes he did..... more than a few years > time flies.....

[joker]

thanks for the read