Is it just me or does anyone else miss good ole regular Barb? Options

[Nothing]

I feel that reading MOD's Posts are like hearing my thoughts exactly. While I do think the Noobanov has increased some of the noobish players skills a little, it has a tremendous increase on the already great players. Yes, there is skill required when using this gun just as with any other gun. Especially since everyone runs almost twice as fast as before. No matter what you do with any mod or any map, there will always be those that think certain parts of the game are cheap or noobish. Shit, I tought camping with a kar was noobish for a long time. Now with the faster running, its a little less as noobish. Either way, everyone needs to accept what we are running. If anyone has any suggestions, offer them. If enough people have a valid point, im sure Steel or any other MOD makers here will look into those possiblilties. But like I say, it needs to be a large majority. In my opinion, I dont think a large majority believe the "Noobanov" needs to be tweaked down.

I do think making the tanks faster and more powerful can help the server a bit. Anyone else?

[steel]

Guys, I suggest that any of these types of discussions move to inside of the mob-only or mob-regs-only forums. I know there is at least one clan reading our forums and laughing at us .... I know because one clan has been sending me screen-shots of our forums and making fun of what seems like infighting to them.

You all have valid points. It was a simple vent chat among mccoy, 6pak, and cudadad, when they were testing my latest mod, that birthed the MWBA server.

My mods have always been geared towards making MWCM TDM more fun, that's all. I never intended them to be used on a base assault server.

But as it turns out, these three individuals came up with a great idea. MWBA is climbing in the server rankings like crazy. It's gone from down in 2,000th place, zooming upwards like a rocket, and right now, it's 113th of all coduo servers worldwide and still zooming upwards. I predict it will be ranked in the top 10 by the end of July. On its current trajectory, it will overtake MWCM and all other servers running my mods too very shortly.

So, yes, things could be better/different. And I am digesting all of these suggestions and will no doubt come out with a tailored base assault mod shortly. But for now, think about how it could be better, yes, but sit back and drink in your success here, yeah?

[Cpt.Canuck]

Guys, I suggest that any of these types of discussions move to inside of the mob-only or mob-regs-only forums. I know there is at least one clan reading our forums and laughing at us .... I know because one clan has been sending me screen-shots of our forums and making fun of what seems like infighting to them.

Other clans are "laughing at us" ? What's wrong with a little friendly discussion about the merits of the weapons and the various strategies needed to win? I think anyone who's interested should be able to read this thread, and participate if they choose (MOB or not). I was actually just about to comment about how nice it was to see a reasonable discussion...


But a couple points on the topic at hand:

1. Those who excel on regular Barb or Stocks are also pretty good on the MWBA server, so I don't believe the argument that the MWBA server requires less skill. Skill, is skill - regardless of weapons.

2. You're all right about the lack of teamwork so far. As mentioned, I'm sure it has a lot to do with the server attracting 'MW players', rather than 'BA players.' Hopefully more people will begin to understand the basic concepts involved in playing Base Assault.

3. The server rocks.

[M@ster of Dis@ster]

Guys, I suggest that any of these types of discussions move to inside of the mob-only or mob-regs-only forums. I know there is at least one clan reading our forums and laughing at us .... I know because one clan has been sending me screen-shots of our forums and making fun of what seems like infighting to them.

Other clans are "laughing at us" ? What's wrong with a little friendly discussion about the merits of the weapons and the various strategies needed to win? I think anyone who's interested should be able to read this thread, and participate if they choose (MOB or not). I was actually just about to comment about how nice it was to see a reasonable discussion...

My thoughts too. This is a good discussion about some of the challenges of finding balance with the MW and the AWE mod on a BAS server. IMO, lots of good points/thoughts being shared. This is one of the more interesting topics I've seen in a long time that has given me (and others) lots to think about. If anyone is making fun of that, they need to get a life.

[flatliner]

Guys, I suggest that any of these types of discussions move to inside of the mob-only or mob-regs-only forums. I know there is at least one clan reading our forums and laughing at us .... I know because one clan has been sending me screen-shots of our forums and making fun of what seems like infighting to them.

But for now, think about how it could be better, yes, but sit back and drink in your success here, yeah?

I love both servers. The new one gives a better satisfaction of being successful, but in turn, it facilitates MANY players treating it as a point whoring situation. I have specced alot of people to gain skill in my own play, and in regular barb, you can see who infiltrates the best, and learn from them. This server promotes those high scores by enabling the dozens of flat out camping points. One, like behind G1, facing the G1 pak is a turkey shoot. I specced a guy who just sat there all game. BUT Steel gave us a fresh breath of air for our servers and should be thanked by all because of it. When I can get on to play, it is fun, more haphazard, and loose. I get all stressed on the regular Barb. But I enjoy that rush as well. Literally to each his own.

as far as other clan sending screenies. A great quote I once heard was, "the eagle does not hunt flies" It is difficult for some people to deal with being second rate. Let them laugh at our "quarrels." Differences of opinion can and will happen when there are hundreds of people playing on our servers and suggestions are welcomed.

Great work Steel. It is a shame that some people have enough time to sit and pick our forums. Sad.

Now, drinks. To alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of lifes problems.

[majorhavoc]

Barb was always a hard map to win outright because of it's size and the clear cut "two-sides" to the map. Now it is harder. Will people learn better ways to play? Dunno. I'd personally like to see the time to set the plant shortened, or something to that effect. It's a real killer that so many people can get back so easily. I've defended a base against 4-5 attackers, only to see 3 more storm in. Many, many times I can't even complete a plant and get my gun back up and ready before I'm being overwhelmed, even though no one was really close when I started planting. It's tough.

You kind of hit on my point about the skill part of Base Assault. I'm sometimes left wondering if some of the players understand the goal and what constitutes a "win" on MW BAS. I guess I'm old school BAS (Barbarossa, especially) in that if I lose a two-round while scoring 120 points, I'm unhappy. I don't get that impression yet from some players on MW BAS...my guess is that it will change at some point.

And as far as other clans "laughing" at this discussion, I'm a little surprised. Seems like this has turned into a pretty even-handed discussion over the pros and cons of the server. I think every post on this thread has been respectful and well thought out. There are hundreds of clans that would die to have such discussions.

I say kudos to {MOB}! You've been excellent hosts for my two years or so here...so, to the other clans:

[shazbot]

Bottom line - this server is always PACKED! It is a great server, there is no question about that. It has brought out a new breed of player though, only interested in points. Saw some players last night just going around and trying to heal people to pad their scores.

Steel will make the changes that are possible and it'll be even better than it is now - thanks in advance Steel.

Very constructive conversation in my opinion.

[muncus]

I miss regular Barb.

[M@ster of Dis@ster]

Bottom line - this server is always PACKED! It is a great server, there is no question about that. It has brought out a new breed of player though, only interested in points. Saw some players last night just going around and trying to heal people to pad their scores.

Steel will make the changes that are possible and it'll be even better than it is now - thanks in advance Steel.

Very constructive conversation in my opinion.

You gets point for healing? LOL! Never knew. I will note one person came in and asked if they could be the "medic". Sometimes people just want to play that way, they think it is "cool". Like people who want to load up the turnip truck for a run. It is pointless and almost always fails, but people just like driving that thing sometimes. Hey, once in a while I've jumped in it and driven across the map honking the horn on a suicide run just for kicks and to see if I could do it! Made it once on a packed map, and got German 2! No, not on MW, I'd have been sniped out in 3 seconds or less!

OK, the big question is, are things like some have suggested, tweaks to tanks, or base planting, even possible and doable without much fuss? If so, maybe we start another thread about that in the next while, get some opinions, take a vote. Personally, I like the idea of "modernizing" the tanks. That'd be a nice surprise for people, and more effective tanks would dial down the camping snipers.

Also, I used to enjoy going on jeep runs, but now I can run almost as fast as a jeep. Wouldn't it be cool if we could modernize jeeps by making them go way faster?

Actually, I have lots of ideas for balancing the MW with the BASE ASSAULT gameplay. That's what is new here. These new, super strong MW is combining with vehicles and a new style play, so it is unique. It'd be fun to discuss IMO, but obviously only is Steel is interested. I don't think anyone would know how to make the changes besides her. What do you think Steel?

Anyway, as for the MW themselves, well, these are Steel's weapons, she has the right to make them however she wishes, and if she wishes to have feedback on them, I'll sure she'll let people know!

[William Wallace]

Believe it or not I have almost stopped playing COD2 to come and play the MOW server. I was getting soooooo sick of the same old Barb. I love the modern weapons it makes for faster gameplay and makes it more exciting.

I prob wouldn't be back into our uo server if this wasn't here!!!

It is like Carentan, I got so sick of playing it on COD:UO and they went and put it on COD2
You can only play the same thing over and over again so many times with mostly the same outcome.

WW

[Wheeler]

I have to say the modern weapons twist to Barb is absolute genius. It completely changes the strategy and tactics used on the map. It is unfortunate that the accuracy and speed of the weapons force some into camping a little more than they should. Just forces us to use a little more patience and take a look in certain locations, travel in a spread out formation to insure that we dont get snipped.

That being said it would be great to get back on a few of the original weapons maps for a few rounds in between.

[Clint]

I miss barb, i was just getting into it too. So I started playing cod2 rifles this week and found that i seriously need some practice. i die ALOT.

[Pancakes]

I miss barb, i was just getting into it too. So I started playing cod2 rifles this week and found that i seriously need some practice. i die ALOT.

If it makes you feel any better, I die alot more.

[Assault trooperPolska]

What's this? I go for a month vacation to Poland and something happened to good old barbarossa? And tuchola too?! can't you make a classic old tuchola/barbarossa rotation server and a MW tuchola/barbarossa rotation server?



Or like back whan smolansk was being the shit, we would have conquest on tuesdays, thursdays and saturdays... maybe similar thing can be applied here... I haven't played on the new barbarossa mw server(since only yesturday i have gotten internet) so i can't say anthing about it, but I know what old classical barbarossa will always be in our hearts... to me it was the first Base assault map and i gotten hooked on BA ever since... really sad to see that something has been done to upset this balance, for every warrior must learn the way of barbarossa old skool style. I trust that the mod is great, but somethings simply good as it is, and alought a bit of new stuff never hurts, sometimes we need to go back to the old stuff, that we remember and love...



BRING OLD BARBAROSSA BACK!!! Then again there is a month before i come back to USA and play, so you contemplate and come to the best conclusion... and hopefully one part of it will include the old barbarossa back...

[steel]

Nobody has taken the stock Barbarossa or Tuchola Forest servers down. They are there whenever you want to play them. Frag on!