Clinton lovers, More dirty laundry? Options

[Hellfighter]

Obviously Hitler is an exageration, i just put that name in to emphasize my extreme dislike of Hillary. Satlin, Tito, Mao, Vlad the Impaler, maybe genghis Khan are reasonable, Hitler maybe extreme, but GOD I REALLY HATE THAT BITCH!!!!!!

LOL.... tell us how you really feel!!! ----ya know maybe you're right though- once she's in power, while doing her crazy cackling, she'll be making pyramids out of skulls of her opponents - like one monster not in that list - Temor [edit; Temur / tamerlane ]- -> I'm surprised history books don't dwell on him much - he was like the monster death rider himself wherever he invaded- and he came close to getting into Europe [from the East]


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 10/10/07 8:27pm

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Pretty tough on other politicians when you look at the situation caused by the current knucklehead. Anyone, and I mean that in the most litteral sense, will be an improvement.

[Hellfighter]

oopsy- mispost



This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 10/10/07 8:26pm

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

I take exception to Hellfighter suggesting Obama could beat a Rep. I can't see Obama having enough credibility and experience to beat a Guliani, Thompson, or any of the top Rep. The only reason he is where he is, is because he is a media darling. I don't think that will carry into the polls however.

Hey there- I'm back in for a bit.....
It was no mere speculation on my part about Obama beating a repub opponent as opposed to Shrillary.
The polls in the USA indicate that as a fact. I'm not a fan of Obama -even though he shows he talks the talk, I doubt he can make a good decision when its crunch time.... this after his famous 'let me scratch that [remark]' he made after he first suggested a direct attack into Pakistan would be an option on the table if a certain opportunity arose.
Search the facts out yourself regarding my observation. It points out that the potential voters though not impressed with the dems, are even less impressed by the pool of repub candidates.

LoL. I thought I could lure you out Hellfighter!

The poles you mention are not phrased as Obama running as the Dem. nominee. HUGE difference. I'm right anyway. Even Democrats are not going to vote for OBama. Why would republicans. Watch as Hillary takes the primary. Go Hillary!!!!



The real question is who will she take for a VP. At first glance I'm thinking Bill Richardson. She already has the black vote so Obama is no help there. Edwards does not seem to bridge any gap to the right and his credibility in marginal. Richardson is a respectable guy and has a "likeability" that Hillary does not have. As her well paid adviser, I will tell her to call Richardson in the morning and work a deal.

This post has been edited by Cpt. Snot Rocket: 10/16/07 8:45pm

[Ktulu]

Well I guess I will just have to throw my Hat in the Ring, KTULU FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!! My credentials:
**No military service
**No Political service
**Successful Manager of 20-350 people
**Tired, Fed up, Middle Income in High Tax Bracket because My wife and I both have decent employment and are just trying to survive.
**Beleive in Hiring people smarter than me to do their jobs (Thats what I pay them for)
**Common sense rules the day, If it doesnt make sense, it is probably the wrong thing to do.

Platform
**China loses most favored nation status
**NAFTA to be re-drafted to really promote free trade of the americas
**Goverment will be told to butt out of your personal lives
**Reform the Tax codes to make things easier to compute Do I hear flat tax anyone!!!
**No government interferance with the internet
**Child Molestors get life in prison or Death by hanging, Ill give em a choice
**Thieves lose a hand for first offense, Second offense see above
**Legalized Marijuanna and Prostitution (Cops have enough to do)
**Government will cease all subsidies for Farmers NOT to grow
**The Government will pay subsidies to Farmers to grow crops to be used as fuel (I dont believe in Global Warming, But I do like to breath)
**Countries and Groups that like to burn the flag and intentionally try to tweak the American tail will be simply be ignored. (No money)
**Will cancel lease to United Nations Building and kick them out of the country. (This organization is as corrupt as any third world county)
**When I go to war I will bring a bazooka to a knife fight
**Pay structure for Politicians will be re-structured. We will use KPI's such as GNP, GDP, inflation, interest rates, Crime statistics, and Unemployment to base your pay off of. The better the numbers look, the healthier the nation and the more $$$ you will make. If the numbers look bad, you make poverty level income.
**Finally, what I do in my bedroom with my wife, her twin sister and a midget is none of your fucking business, Ill admit I did it but it is still none of your business!!

[Hellfighter]

I take exception to Hellfighter suggesting Obama could beat a Rep. I can't see Obama having enough credibility and experience to beat a Guliani, Thompson, or any of the top Rep. The only reason he is where he is, is because he is a media darling. I don't think that will carry into the polls however.

Hey there- I'm back in for a bit.....
It was no mere speculation on my part about Obama beating a repub opponent as opposed to Shrillary.
The polls in the USA indicate that as a fact. I'm not a fan of Obama -even though he shows he talks the talk, I doubt he can make a good decision when its crunch time.... this after his famous 'let me scratch that [remark]' he made after he first suggested a direct attack into Pakistan would be an option on the table if a certain opportunity arose.
Search the facts out yourself regarding my observation. It points out that the potential voters though not impressed with the dems, are even less impressed by the pool of repub candidates.

LoL. I thought I could lure you out Hellfighter!

The poles you mention are not phrased as Obama running as the Dem. nominee. HUGE difference. I'm right anyway. Even Democrats are not going to vote for OBama. Why would republicans. Watch as Hillary takes the primary. Go Hillary!!!!



The real question is who will she take for a VP. At first glance I'm thinking Bill Richardson. She already has the black vote so Obama is no help there. Edwards does not seem to bridge any gap to the right and his credibility in marginal. Richardson is a respectable guy and has a "likeability" that Hillary does not have. As her well paid adviser, I will tell her to call Richardson in the morning and work a deal.

But nooooo, oh crafty Cpt. Rocket.
Read my posts a bit more to see my point of view.
I said Hillary is likely to take the nomination- I always did say that.
I don't like her entirely but I'd go with her calculating scheming mastery as a general leader in the global arena compared to the other noms.
I'm not pro-Obama- I've always said that.
Here's what I'm saying;
The polls show repubs likely to get pummeled in the election...but,
Here's how things can get interesting;
Polls show if -IF- Obama got the dem. nomination he would indeed beat out repubs and Guiliani [?] by his popularity in general alone compared to the repub opponents - remember most folks in US aren't too happy with repub noms. so far -its not a 50/50 split.
HOWEVER- If Hillary who IS widely popular in the dem party gets the nom. -now looks likely- everything changes; all the repubs despise her and any who chose to shift to dems to vote would rather vote Obama to make sure Shrillary doesn't get her likely elected spot as the dem nom.
Guiliani and Romney are currently declaring Clinton as the nom because they know if she gets the nod, she's in big trouble going against them- by popularity; also she has yet to screw up majorly in her campaign- and most likely she will unless she's really on the ball- then things are not so definate for the dems.
ps.One day you'll have to explain the US fascination with generalised 'voter' categories.
ie, the black vote, the woman vote, the nascar dad vote, the soccermom vote, the cod players vo.... oops.
I see it nowhere else in the Western democracies- regarding politicians looking for blobs of voters based on such stereotyping.
It's interesting but a bit cheesy in my books how the catergorization in the US media is misrepresenting and acceptably endorsed stereotyping- there are in reality gay repubs, women-not-voting hillary voters, conservative blacks.

I hope she'd pick Joe Biden for VP- he's savvy and not phoney.... from what I know.

Well I guess I will just have to throw my Hat in the Ring, KTULU FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!! My credentials:

I was ready to get a Ktulu-Girls [ re; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekSxxlj6rGE] campaign going for you but you avoided taking a position on the Health care debate in that list- yer just like all the other politicians


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 10/17/07 8:16am

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

I understand. My point is that Hillary is very well known. Whether one likes her or not, they know of her. The same with Obama being promoted so heavily by the media.

The republicans do not have someone who is so flashy and capturing all the headlines. If the media was not so much liberally biased they would be carrying Guliani on there shoulders, but they have even more liberal people to suppoort than him in Obama and hillary.

So Rep's don't have a flashy kindy of guy. Once the primaries are over it all changes. Then it's all about the 2 people left. That's when the poles strart to count for who would you vote for Pres.

I am suprised you don't have "voter catergories" in Canada. I assumed it was a normal human response.
Of course there are black conservatives, for example. However they only a samal percent of the total black population in the US. And they are called lot's of demeaning names by the ones that aren't.

The "catergories" here are a direct result of the Immagration Melting Pot, strong religious background, Civil War, liberal universities, ethnic issues and more.

[Shred and Burn]

6 Pak sent this to me.

Muhahahaaa

This post has been edited by Shred and Burn: 10/17/07 9:18am

[cowdoc]

Ktulu I would vote for you in heartbeat. You should run because you are the first person I have ever agreed with. please don't take that as an insult.





Ktulu for President!!!!!!!

[Genocide Junkie]

I'd almost advocate removing all of our current Washington Reps and replacing them with a random lottery of participants. Anything would be better than the people we have as choices to elect. Would be nice to be governed by a random sampling of the population instead of the powerful elite.... no way for Joe Q Public to come from no where and be Pres IMO.

[GIJOE]

I think this country has had enough of the Clinton/Bush regimes.... It is time for someone new and fresh... KT for Pres.!!!

VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PFC Mustangman]

This is the man to restore the Republic! www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8

[Hellfighter]

6 Pak sent this to me.

Muhahahaaa

who is that- Chewbacca and a blonde Princess Leia? [ I hope that pic was ok for 'public' use ]

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I am suprised you don't have "voter catergories" in Canada. I assumed it was a normal human response.
Of course there are black conservatives, for example. However they only a samal percent of the total black population in the US. And they are called lot's of demeaning names by the ones that aren't.

The "catergories" here are a direct result of the Immagration Melting Pot, strong religious background, Civil War, liberal universities, ethnic issues and more.

Nope- we don't have that- I lived around a few places too-like Europe [all with large ethnic melting pots] and I've seen nothing like that level of promotional hype in Poiliticians/media assuming a group will vote for someone mostly because they look like them - more in place of personal opinions on issues-> if they aren't caucasian males. It's funny but at the same time worrying that those in 'groups' may themselves be voting on that basis of 'similarity'.
Keep in mind I'm not saying that majorities of groups don't tend to one side based on what's being politically offered - ie, Hispanic/immigration issues; but it's very heavily played up openly is what makes it unique to the USA amongst West nations.

EDIT;
However, your assumption would be correct in that this does exist indeed in Quebec on the basis of language. [ bilingualism]


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 10/19/07 1:31am