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[realdeal]

Defelect... deflect....deflect.....

[Druid]

Please go back to TLD's forums where this all began. YOU brought it up. Not me.  Do you have nothing better to do then bring up an issue that was dead for over 5 months?

Sorry Ashe but wrong again, I only posted in reply to your post.
As much as you try to say this was regarding an issue that was dead 5 months ago, that realy isn't the case now is it?
If it was, You wouldn't of felt the need to bitch at your own members in the last 2 weeks just because they happen to play in our server.
Also as already stated, it's very obvious MOB was dragged over the coals privately in your forum regarding the missionary stuff. An issue you still won't admit you were wrong about even though proof has been posted in this very topic.
Now tell me again who can't let things go?

[*AtimA*]

lmao sry to butt in but have yall ever heard of sumerizing. i hate F****** reading but continu on boys ignor me im just Reg & a post whore and will take ne opurtunity to bring up my post stats

[The_redeemer]

same here.



im listening to behemoth play gay music


I don't under some of it, but most was good reading and very boring =P

[={DMG}=Girls w/ guns]

First of all MOB there you go again. Doing what you do best perpetuating drama. Doesn’t Mob have lives outside of MOHAA, AWH, didn’t think so. You’re the ones who hold on to shit. Ashe didn’t say much in his little comment about mob. Your perception of things is a little off. Oh, I assume it goes back to the missionary issue. Assuming this assuming that; why don’t you assume that you’re really not that important for us to still give rat’s ass about your missionary deal. DROP IT. Talk about living in the past. I bet your archiving links and replies so you can readily have it “in case” it ever comes up. Move the fuck on please. Have you guys grown so enveloped in this whole charade that you’ve sunk so far as to try and Hack our Members only section of the site?

DID you guys HACK our "PRIVATE MEMBERS FORUM" to steal the information from a copy write protected site and repost it on public sites for the sole purpose of beginning a flame war? Or did you just work really hard to try and persuade a “so called” DMG member to give you the password so that you can steal private information? Oh is this the second clan you’ve done it to? If that’s not bad enough you know that far and few DMG give a shit about your drama enough to read your forums so you go to TLD and try to start a FLAME WAR there too. Come the fuck on. Yes a great example of integrity and leadership you continually show the mohaa community.


Second of all:
It’s self imposed ban .Maybe he doesn’t want us to even have to deal with FASCIST leaders; who Snoop in all the so called “PRIVATE MESSAGES” in their forums; then acts out on the snooping. Perhaps he doesn’t want us to invoke any conversation with people who like harbor old “issues” and repeatedly bring them back up when given the chance. Maybe he doesn’t want us to deal with a leader who tries so damn hard to figure out what’s going on in DMG’s private members section. Christ it makes fucking sense to me. Why not pull the plug at the root of the problem; so we can spend more time --- PLAYING THE DAMN GAME.

PLEASE read AT LEAST THIS SECTION
THIRDLY: MAYBE YOU NEED A REFRESHER COURSE ON THE WHOLE ENTIRE HISTORY BEHIND the MOB 4 deal.

Before we were even DMG me and Stupad used to play on mob 4 ALLOT, We befriended GPF and the regulars (unlike the mob players who seldom went there and when they did they would talk shit to noobs and force ss on everyone who had a better score than them) I busted cheaters, got games started and got people to come back> Every night it was GPF, me, Stupad, the Mexican, errtuu and richard cranium there for roll call at midnight. GPF even wanted me and Stupad to be “official regulars” for his server (but then we got picked up by DMG) he thanked us for everything we were doing for his server. I liked his server and him because he seemed different than MOB he was actually trying to make it fun for people. Low and behold on mob 4 Holden Caulfield becomes my friend. When I joined DMG I never said shit about the “DMG” site while on the server cause I didn’t want to “step on” real deals sensitive toes (even though people would ask). I didn’t want to publicly mention our site because I heard how Mob’s leader was. So, WHAT DO I DO? I figure I’ll just mention where my new site is to my friend in a “PRIVATE MESSAGE” (if you want the definition of private I can look it up for you) as to not piss off anyone or “spam”. LOW AND BEHOLD – YES what happens to private messages on the MOB SITE? They aren’t private, not at all. The next thing you know Read Deal is messaging ASHE saying he wants to “ban me” for advertising in a “PRIVATE MESSAGE” not addressed to him. Jokingly saying “is she slow” cause I didn’t understand the so called subjective rules of “spam”. WTF it’s a god damn fuckin game.. HELLO. Turns out that MOB wanted to recruit my friend. He would have joined if not for the injustice and hypocrisy and lack of integrity displayed MOBS leadership. He declined because of what Real Deal did.

That’s the thanks we get for all the time busting cheaters on MOB 4, getting people to download new maps, creating regulars and starting up the server. You could say I was FUCKIN ANGRY about the BS. I did put a self imposed ban from the server myself. For reason of principle and Real Deal’s fascism. I missed GPFs server and all the regulars. I wanted to let GPF know why we weren’t going to be around anymore because his clan leader is full of shit. He asked what would have to happen so I can play there again and I said simply “break away from mob” and it was my idea to ask if he needed a clan to associate with he could use our name. I thought he was better than what some of Mob had become (talking down to noobs, accusing everyone with better scores of hacking, ego trips and a general lack of respect for anyone not in a clan or who doesn’t kiss their ass). I was telling him that as a friend and someone who really loved his server and wanted to see it grow (its subjective so don’t tell me otherwise). So yeah, I’m guilty it was me! Do I deserve a spanking now or what? Don’t blame it on DMG… blame it on Girls w/guns. I don’t really give a rat’s ass! If I did something I’ll be the first to admit it. I did it with just cause. Don’t drag anyone else into your imbroglio of drama. I just explained why I did it. So if you still have funk about it you got funk with ME. Not Ashe, not Farmer not even Vert or Stupad; ME. So, what’s the point?

DRUID I don’t know you but I respected you because I heard you were intelligent and reasonable. I am not trying to start a fucking flame war between current MOB members but I think you needed to hear another side of the story. Whether or not you take the time to hear an opposing opinion is beyond my control. I just wanted to put it out there. Your own members/leaders are not infallible. Yes it was me who suggested GPF break away from MOB. Not Ashe, not anyone else. It was all my idea and my instigating; so what. It may have been wrong from your perspective but my behavior was a reaction to the actions of Real Deal. From my perspective I feel justified in my behavior and do not regret my actions. I did it for selfish reasons because I wanted to play there every night without having to deal with all the drama MOB likes bring about (i.e. Real deals snooping habits and name calling and his inexpedient abuse of administrative powers). I loved the late night high speed carnage wars with GPF, TLD, DMG and other great players; and wanted a positive place to play without having to deal with Real Deals antics or some of your members forcing SS on me when the server owner knows I don’t cheat (and actually bust others for it). It seems in this plight of clan dealings you people forgot how to have fun and what clans are really supposed to be about. It seems that MOB doesn’t appreciate the newer folks who fill your servers, try catch hackers; you know the little gamers that make the world go round. For some of MOB I apologize if you are offended by what I’ve said if you have integrity and have shown respect for the gaming community then these comments don’t apply to you. You say you judge clans on how hard they try to create a place for people to play and have fun; does this not apply to your own clan as well.

NOTE: Don’t bother replying to me on this forum. I won’t propagate anymore bullshit drama or flame wars. I’m not coming back to view this thread or post a rebuttal I said what I needed to say. I don’t care who reads it or who doesn’t. I just wanted Druid to have some first hand background info and commentary as to what led up to this crap. If Druid has anything else to say he can find me on the DMG site (and that goes for anyone else who wants to take it amongst themselves to further perpetuate the situation).

How about this for resolution; I will never play on any of your servers again. Also, I hereby offer an apology for anyone that’s been offended as a result of my actions; although I am not apologizing for my actions themselves.

And how bout real deal get a goddamned life and stop harboring shit from 5 months ago and trying so hard to spy on whatever the fuck is going on in our "Private Members Forum" How about you let every other clan into your private member forums and let us see the shit you said that was to be kept amongst yourselfs. WTF seriously who's so childishly into it that they spend all of thier spare time fucking trying to get others clans members to divulge inner clan info or whats going on in their private members forum. NEWSFLASH

This post has been edited by ={DMG}=Girls w/ guns: 06/05/05 5:50am

[={DMG}=Girls w/ guns]

As for those like Real Deal, SPARE ME THE FUCKIN ACADEMY AWARDS! You are NOT the innocent or just leader your codes of conduct like to portray. Admit it and admit you spend way to much time trying to figure out what other clans are up to. Lets face it you’re the like the Karl Rove or John Negroponte of Mohaa. I understand you like the game but I think you’re a little too pre-occupied with the POLITICS of it; so much so that you forgot what the mohaa community should really be about. He spammed that, she spammed this, this clan said this in their private member forum, 2 years ago when I asked them to use missionary they wouldn’t. You like to keep tabs, hold shit over people’s heads when half of the current clan members weren’t even around when the shit happened. What do you have some folder on your PC that archives everything and anything everyone on MOHAA has ever done? ……. On the 19th day of June 2004 at 5:05 pm this one clan member said he didn’t like mob in his private message I hacked into. WHO THE FUCK CARES….. LET IT GO! If mohaa is gonna survive at all this cut throat circus of politics sure isn’t gonna help us! If you love it… Let it go. For the love of GOD! Your gonna give yourself an ulcer keepin "tabs" on fucking clan bullshit and bringing shit up from the dead.




So DID YOU GUYS HACK our "PRIVATE MEMBERS FORUM" to steal the information from a copy write protected site and repost it on public sites for the sole purpose of beginning a flame war? Or did you just work really hard to try and persuade a “so called” DMG member to give you the password so that you can steal private information? Oh is this the second clan you’ve done it to? Yes a great example of integrity you continually show the mohaa community. “Oh self righteous leader"

I dont really give a fuck if anyone has a rebuttal to this post. I dont want to waste any more precious time from my life worrying about some "funk" a "video game" clan has over some old ass shit that. I def hope none of you are losing sleep over this shit! I'll be on the DMG site and no where else (not the TLD siten not metal mulisha... DMG) Enough of these childish antics seriously people.

[Gridlock]

[realdeal]

Are you for real?

More defelection. Good lord, STFU already. I can't beleive Ashe made you post that for him!



Once again, let's bring this thread back on topic:


={DMG}=YOU_SO_STUPAD --- He asked us if there were any solutions that could be worked out so we could play there again and I think the only way this could be done would be to break off from MOB. THis would be cool since we pay nothing for the server, he does it just cuz he likes to play! It would also be good since there are already tons of regulars on that server so it would boost our forums and webpage tremedously! think about it, free server 64 people, west coast for us CALI DMG, and free advertizing for DMGclan.com!
HAHA, first we take their players now we take their server! DONT FUCK WITH DMG
={DMG}=Vertigo --- I think it'd be cool. Just to shove it in their faces. DMG #4 it would look so good. It always attracts players, I love the server because I poon noobs on it Gretzky style.
={DMG}=ashe --- Get this done
={DMG}=FaRmErBrOwN --- Hey Girl, Ashe has asked me this morning to tell you to go ahead.
={DMG}=Vertigo --- No I think you're lying. Everyone wants to be DMG.
I didn't want him anyway. He's cancer in the making. His server would be nice though.
={DMG}=YOU_SO_STUPAD --- I emailed gpf and asked him to call me and josh sometime after 8 or something. This is when we will have to try and work him lol! We still have to discuss our plan of attack nah more like final convincing. a like a man that wants to be convinved but still is like i dont know , but then hes like convince me. Ill let you know how it goes.
={DMG}=Girlsw/Guns --- heres whats going on. here is the reply I got from gpf regaurding the server Thank you very kindly for your detailed message, I appreciate it. My first reaction is: you punish yourselves by not coming over to #4 because of what some clan member (RD) says? Who cares what he says? Sticks and stones may break my bones...
That just seems a little unusual to me. It seems like biting your
nose to spite your face,
if you're familiar with that aphorism.

I guess he needs to think about it some more. I dont know he may be too much of a pansy to break away from MOB.




And you have the nerve to talk about integrity and the good of the MOHAA community?

[={DMG}=ashe]

Druid,
I am having a problem with one of the bat files on the server. Later on can you take a look at it?

[realdeal]

Well, it seems we have a new user to the forums

And this comes from the girl that talks about integrity?



-----

[PISTOFFBAD]

LOL Realdeal, your a regular Barnaby Jones.

[Silver]

BLAH BLAH BLAH.....

ok im gonna chime in here....
1.) who the fuck are? how long have you been in the mohaa world? oh yeah wait, thats right you have been around for like what a minute? you seriously think that your actions will affect {MOB} or anyother clan? no.....good bye I or anyone else around really dont GIVE 2 SHITS if you drop dead while helping the homeless.

2.) well this explains why ashe refused to send me the pk3's for the coduo server. kinda nice, didnt have to ban me, but also wouldnt let me play there either. not like i really care, theres 4000 other servers (mostly full to kick ass on...). so i guess {MOB} aint welcome there as well...oh wait {MOB} never asks for us not to play with others because of childish bullshit. thats all this is is 10 y/o bullshit. i hear this shit from my 2 kids. so i see the mentality....

3.) i dont ever remember real being an asshole about missionary. most clans have to use it, you dont your no better then a hack. but your whole clan refused to use it. how would i know because i remember seeing a few DMG (one being vert) bitching about using it on the server back when i played on it....this is while DMG didnt have a server, but then they got one again...make up your minds if you gonna play a game. done come to the server no one give 2 shits. (you should be familar with that now.)

4.) holden coulfield (? correct spelling) who give 2 shits what he thinks...stay the fuck away!!!
adios, BYE BYE!!!!

now for DMG, HOODS......the stupidity from OCC must be spreading. one dumb fuck to you cunt w/ gunz.


to anyone that was around for a while Bullet, Barg0d......i see why some of the older MOB guys say F?U right off the bat. assholes like you.

Fuck being friends
fuck off



*P.S.* I dont remeber druid or Realdeal ever proclaiming to be GODs around here. hes been here the longest and is probally one of the nicest 2 guys around. do me a favor, dont insult them....as for ASHE he gets his jollys off by starting shit around mohaa. thats from his own words.

This post has been edited by Silver: 06/05/05 10:52am

[={DMG}=ashe]

I was going to let it die down but the fat ass that does not know how to spell or use punctuation decided to put his two cents in (which leaves his entire net worth now at $1.24).

good bye I or anyone else around really dont GIVE 2 SHITS if you drop dead while helping the homeless.

Obviously this is not true or you would not of taken the time to take your fat little fingers out of the bag of Cool Ranch Doritos long enough to type a 3rd grade style essay with more punctuation errors and misspellings then if your kids would of typed it.

2.) well this explains why ashe refused to send me the pk3's for the coduo server. kinda nice, didnt have to ban me, but also wouldnt let me play there either.

I did not refuse to send you the pk3 files, moron. I told you we were in the process of changing the files on the server and I would send you them when they were done. Have your child read the post to you. There are multi syllabic words and you will not be able to comprehend them without your offsprings help.

so i guess {MOB} aint welcome there as well...oh wait {MOB} never asks for us not to play with others because of childish bullshit

Are you a member of Mob? I did not know that Mobs Mohaa charity had gone as far as to let the less fortunate minds among the community join. When did you start making the decisions for Mob?

this is while DMG didnt have a server, but then they got one again...make up your minds if you gonna play a game.

Fuckstick, we have had a server, non-stop for over three years. So we didnt "got one again", we always had one.

to anyone that was around for a while Bullet, Barg0d......i see why some of the older MOB guys say F?U right off the bat. assholes like you.

I am not sure what this means, but I am sure it is not nice. What is F?U?, Silver, I do believe that your fingers have gotten so fat that you can no longer hit one key at a time. Maybe you should try Jenny Craig one more time. Isnt that where you met your wife?

*P.S.* I dont remeber druid or Realdeal ever proclaiming to be GODs around here. hes been here the longest and is probally one of the nicest 2 guys around.

Who has been here the longest? Is he two guys? Once again, makes no sense. I would agree that Druid is a very nice guy. He has helped me out tons of times (not tons as in what your legs weigh, but I mean alot of times). Realdeal can be a very nice guy as well, he just takes his clan and himself way to seriously. You on the other hand should just be tagged for research. You are about one beer away from being tied to a wheelchair and locked in a room with no windows and nothing to cut yourself on.

In closing, Slobber, keep your fat mouth filled with chimichangas and your hot dog sized fingers off the keyboard, you are only showing your ignorance and lack of anything resembling intelligence.

[Silver]

You on the other hand should just be tagged for research. You are about one beer away from being tied to a wheelchair and locked in a room with no windows and nothing to cut yourself on.

this is true......

but for the rest your a funny mother fucker!! take you all night to think of that? my kid read me the post...still waiting....

ashe the only reason why this converstion is taking place is cuz your server is DEAD same as your forums. you must hope the publicity from mob and tld forums will bring in a few people. might not want to recruit them right away... well im wrong they will be the only people at ur joint. btw your clan took its last breath along time ago. as for me being a reg...hummm...i dont plan on ever being recruited for MOB, i am a little weird but if i wanted to be in a "REAL" clan i guess i could have found one.seeing as there are VERY few of them around.i dont think i would leave ANY CLAN for Hoods inc.(I mean really!) the REGS are about what i wanted. still you are nothing more then a leech on the mohaa community. i always seen you as a fair person, i still think you are but you really got to stop the childish bullshit. really man grow up! i dont see why {MOB} would give a shit about server #4 no one used the thing and no one asked for it. so why would {MOB} care if it left...oh wait...cuz a clan that was kinda a friend started stupid shit? that must be you.






This post has been edited by Silver: 06/05/05 12:22pm

[Druid]

Ashe
you are only showing your ignorance and lack of anything resembling intelligence.
Funny you would say that seeing as how it was what I was going to reply to this

={DMG}=Girls w/ guns
So DID YOU GUYS HACK our "PRIVATE MEMBERS FORUM" to steal the information from a copy write protected site and repost it on public sites for the sole purpose of beginning a flame war? Or did you just work really hard to try and persuade a “so called” DMG member to give you the password so that you can steal private information? Oh is this the second clan you’ve done it to? Yes a great example of integrity you continually show the mohaa community. “Oh self righteous leader"

Once again another accusation that stems from your own illiteracy.
Yep we hacked your forum, you don't even understand how and why thats not possible. It's true nuke sites get hacked all the time. There are two reasons for this.
1) they don't keep updated, which isn't the case on yours
2) The sites are ran from here today gone tomorrow host that don't know how to correctly secures the site or version of SQL they use. This again isn't the case because your site is hosted the same place ours is.

As for the accusation I tried so hard to persuade someone to do something, you are obviously confusing me with yourself ( ie. Hey GPF here is a B.S. story I'll tell you to try and get you to change your server Tags ).
This is simply how it happened.
I was playing on our server and someone was running up a good score.
I was still logged into our server box and I thought it might me someone who I had just previous banned for wallhacking, so I did a quick check of their IP.
To my suprise it happen to be one of your players.
I asked why he was smurfing.
He asked to go to spec then he told me it was so he wouldn't get bitched at.
I told him I didn't care if DMG played on our server, more the merrier but I don't like people smurfing as it causes problems.
His reply was "No not you guys Heir Ashe Hitler bitches if we play on MOB servers"
After that I had a very enlighting converstion with him.

Yep your right that's a lot of massive persuading on my part.

While we are on the subject of hacking, do me a favor and ask Ashe who fixed the DMG Server box after it was hacked to save you guys a $100 OS reload fee.
Gooddamn ain't I the Asshole... How dare I... LMAO

Seeing as how you want to justify your acusation by bringing up TLD and what happened on their forum.
I didn't hack it someone else did, several people brought it to my attention.
When I got there, very true I saved a copy of it.
This was for one reason and one reason only.
Certain members who are no longer active had huge issues that they where unwilling to discuss, deal with or simply drop. The only reason I brought it up in a reply to one of their members is I wasn't going to let him continue pissing down my back while he tried to tell me it was raining.
Did I ever do anything publicly with it. No
In fact recently, I'm the one who pointed out TLD where begging to get hacked again becauss they was running an old version. When they tried to update it and ran into problem, I helped fix it.
So please don't try to add what happen with TLD into this fray because you only make yourself look more silly.

As for the rest of your post.
={DMG}=Girls w/ guns
I think you’re a little too pre-occupied with the POLITICS of it; so much so that you forgot what the mohaa community should really be about. He spammed that, she spammed this, this clan said this in their private member forum, 2 years ago when I asked them to use missionary they wouldn’t. You like to keep tabs, hold shit over people’s heads when half of the current clan members weren’t even around when the shit happened.
The perfect example of what I'm talking about.
The only real differnce is it's a reflection of you not us, thats what you fail or refuse to understand.
The whole discussion involving server #4 is the perfect example.
GPF is the nicest guy, has never said anything bad about or to anyone.
Yet you won't play on his server for your own petty reasons. A server you and many DMG liked to play on. Yet now you refuse to for the exact same clan POLITICS you accuse us of.

Here is the summary.
Someone is told a B.S. story to try and get server tags changed.
Part of the reason is because they assume it will be some big bash on MOB.
When it doesn't work out, A nice guy who had down nothing wrong becomes a pansy an asshole.
Which breaks down to
"If you don't change your server tag we are going to take our ball and go home"
So don't you dare lecture me about childish antics.