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realdeal
post 06/09/05 10:29pm
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Normally I would never post something like this. In fact, I wish it wouldn't have come to this however, I feel I need to post about some non-truths that have been floating around the community about Diesel and what he is telling people his reasons are for leaving MOB.

Diesel was our first recruit after the split. As I have previously stated, he was a big part of our success after the split. Again, I did not want this to come to this but unfortunately it appears that some people cannot just let go.

I have always considered Diesel a true friend however, the longer I am around MOB and clans in general, those you sometimes consider true friends are not and will stick the knife in your back the first chance they get. Unfortunately, I personally have learned this lesson the hard way, a few times.

It seems that Diesel is spreading mistruths about the reasons he left MOB and I thought I would "clear the air"

First of all, Diesel never bothered to tell anyone in {MOB} that he quit. His last post in our forums was after the =SK= match where he stated that he was "done with mohaa" and wanted to stick to COD:UO. This was fine as Diesel had previously brought this up in the past. But the next day he deletes himself from our OGL roster... never to be heard from again.

Nice huh? This is how a person treats his fellow team-mates, some of whom he had been "friends" with for over a year.

Second, Diesel cites a "lack of competitiveness" within the clan. This is just not the case. What I think Diesel is referring to is his frustration in the match vs. =SK= when we got out asses handed to us. Right before this match we had a number of issues. Gridlock was having random computer restarts and couldn't play, Madcapp couldn't play as his vent was not working, we had a miscommunication with Anvil and thought he was playing, but he wasn't. So, we had to pull Shifty (who hadn't played the game in months) out of retirement and into the match. Shifty had about 20 minutes notice, Ktulu was having cable connections and was pinging out and Diesel was having connection issues and thought he didn't have vent for most of the match. (He did) We tried to re-schedule but it was too late. I think you get the point; we went into this match ill-prepared. No big deal, we shake it off and keep on moving. We've lost before and will lose again. Shit happens. Diesel doesn't handle losing well. As far as Diesel having the most kills, this is certainly nothing to brag about in a match like this. See for yourself HERE.

Other than this match, we generally have too many members sign up for a match and decisions have to be made as to who will sit out or back up or sub in/out of rounds. So to claim a lack of competitiveness is just plain dim-witted.

Diesel also claims that we allow too many members into MOB and that we just let anyone old-body into MOB.
This is an interesting one considering Diesel basically threw one of our recent recruits (Who BTW is no longer with us) down our throats and against some people's better judgment, on Diesel's word, we took this player into the MOB family. (This player quit not 24 hours after his first match). Other than that player, our only recent recruits are Madcapp and Gridlock. Two players that I and most consider to be two top MOHAA players. Diesel had no problem recruiting these players either. So again, I am not sure where this is coming from.

Further, Diesel brags about having the most kills in our match vs. SK and claims that the fact he was having connection issues and still had the most kills on our team was "pathetic". Diesel, there is no "I" in team wink.gif

Apparently, Diesel has told several people the above reasons for why he left MOB, because I've already been contacted by a few people that Diesel has spoken to.

I did not want it to come to this however, I will not let someone tell lies and bad mouth this clan. Sorry, it's not going to happen.

I warned Diesel 2 times not to start this crap and to just let it go. To my last message Diesel replies:

"dont worry u start shit and I have everything to make ur precious clan fall apart...You started by telling me not to BS people why I left and I will tell them WHy I left like I have told them the truth ....its always good to have a mole (friend) in the clan...also I gave up moh "

Now Diesel claims to have a "mole" within MOB that has sent him private posts from our member's only forum. If this is true, we will weed the person out eventually and that person will be dealt with.

Furthermore, Diesel continues to play in our servers, of course he doesn't use his real name. He uses names like -|TLD|-SVTCobra (wishful thinking?) and $}{r|nk.

I could go on and on but I wont. I just wanted the truth out there in the open.

Good luck to Diesel a/k/a Vap0r[=VX9=Rct.] !


Go ahead Diesel, ruin "my precious clan" now. I'm waiting.


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post 06/09/05 11:00pm
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NO! This clan is more than any one player. RD, this is hard for me to understand. I love DIESEL, but I also love MOB. DIESEL deserves respect, whether he leaves or not. He's the best player I ever speced (no question!).

This is very difficult. My loyalty is with you and Druid, but I can't understand why DIESEL must go. I'm sorry.

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post 06/09/05 11:03pm
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QUOTE(Mona Lisa @ 06/10/05 12:00am)
NO! This clan is more than any one player. RD, this is hard for me to understand. I love DIESEL, but I also love MOB. DIESEL deserves respect, whether he leaves or not. He's the best player I ever speced (no question!).

This is very difficult. My loyalty is with you and Druid, but I can't understand why DIESEL must go. I'm sorry.

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Diesel left under his own volition. I tried to show him respect. I privately asked him twice to stop bad mouthing MOB with his lies. I posted his reply in my post. Sorry, but someone like this no longer deserves respect.


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post 06/09/05 11:31pm
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Agreed, anybody who ever thinks about bad mouthing people and fucking us over in the clan deserves no respect. Hes a little girl for not handling it like a man, maybe he should go back to high school, they like adding into drama there.


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post 06/09/05 11:35pm
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Didnt know this had happened. It is all news to me. D plays hard, and I thought he was 100% MOB. I didnt know he was using Cobra's name on your servers. I hate too see him leave Mob, he kept the Pot stirred up quite well.


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post 06/10/05 12:04am
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Mona...will you stfu up already. Good player doesnt mean shit. We've went over this before. Someone might be decent at racking up kills...but can be a prick. < people like that get no respect from me.


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post 06/10/05 12:06am
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Stockguy,

This is really over my head, and none of my business. However, I am nonetheless moved to respond. Perhaps DIESEL is upset and doesn't understand the wrath of those who now turn against him. When I first started playing here, DIESEL was the foundation. Now, I think many of us wonder how this could have come to pass. I'll get out of this thread, because like I said, this is none of my business.

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post 06/10/05 12:08am
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QUOTE(.AmbiencE. @ 06/09/05 11:04pm)
Mona...will you stfu up already. Good player doesnt mean shit. We've went over this before. Someone might be decent at racking up kills...but can be a prick. < people like that get no respect from me.
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post 06/10/05 12:09am
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QUOTE(Mona Lisa @ 06/10/05 1:06am)
Perhaps DIESEL is upset and doesn't understand the wrath of those who now turn against him.
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LMFAO
Did you read my post? Who turned against who here?

Remember, I asked him twice, actually three times (once on MOHAATRUTH) to drop it and let it go. He didn't.


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post 06/10/05 12:10am
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you already said it yourself. None of your business. Plenty of mine seeing that im the one that started all of this after i got the pm from pussy boy.


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post 06/10/05 12:22am
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I've read it all, RD. Ambience, I will comply with your wishes after this post.

Goodby DIESEL. Always consider me your friend!

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post 06/10/05 12:34am
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Something else interesting that I just found and thought I would add to show you exactly what we're dealing with.

Not only did Diesel join VX9 for MOHAA but he also joined a cod:uo clan called the 1st Armored.

No big deal right? WRONG!

Take a look at this:
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I'll give you one guess as to who theCLINCHER is. Take a look at the date of that post..... May 19. LMAO. Diesel was still playing in matches with MOB.

I rest my case.


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post 06/10/05 12:50am
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post 06/10/05 1:04am
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wow its hard to belive DIESEL did this but i c it with my own eyes!
BTW how do u know that is D?
and thanks D for all the nades u showed me biggrin.gif


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post 06/10/05 2:22am
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QUOTE(*AtimA* @ 06/10/05 1:04am)
wow its hard to belive DIESEL did this but i c it with my own eyes!
BTW how do u know that is D?
and thanks D for all the nades u showed me biggrin.gif
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Actually, he was using that name for some reason while playing with some of us on CODUO. I thought it was because we were on a server who MOB (I was still a reg, of course) might play them in a match. I believe it was an |ax| server, but I could be wrong. Anyway, he was using the name clincher for a bit. And, we were on vent together, so it wasn't like I was guessing.
Hey, a lot of us like Diesel. And if you've played with him on vent you know he loses his cool and gets seriously pissed when he doesn't think he's playing his best, or, quite frankly, when others are just playing better. He'd leave a server in a heartbeat when things weren't going his way. I don't think that's a bad thing. If you're playing like crap (in your own oppinion) maybe it's best to not play when you know it gets you pissed off.
But there is no reason not to be brutally honest with people who consider your their friend and just say, look, I think I would be better off somewhere else. Maybe Diesel felt he was no longer the top player in the clan and wanted to move on to where he could be. Who knows. An ego can be a fragile thing. Maybe he just felt that he wasn't being listened to enough and that his strats were better. These are all reasonable reasons to leave. But remember, he didn't just leave MOB. He left people who considered him a freind. I will miss talking with "Cheesel" as I liked to call him, and I'll miss being called "Barfrog". But this is no way to leave.
OK, I'm starting to ramble.
There was just a better way to handle this, and there is no reason for him to trash talk if he felt it was time for him to move on. That's just not something that a friend does.


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