Ideas for Barb and Cassino Options

[Bargod]

I think there are a couple of problems with each server, and I don't think I'm the only one who believes this.
First, in the Cassino server we should get rid of the MG's. The ones you have to place, that is, not BAR or STG. Also, since we've had some trouble from the rocket jumper thing I think we should just get rid of rockets too. This way I don't have to explain to people how it's ok to be on one roof but not another (cuz one the enemy can shoot back the other they can't). I think this will greatly improve the gameplay since it will cut back a bit on spawn killing and let everyone have more fun. I also think the time limit should be 25 minutes instead of 20.
Second, for Barbarossa I think we need to cut back the players just a bit. Maybe make 22 public spots with 4 or 6 private. I think once you start getting 30 players on their it just isn't as much fun do to lack of vehicles and the number of people forced to be on foot and camp. When there are that many players if you take a tank by a house you are going to get hit by a rocket. You just can't prevent it cuz there are too many people without vehicles.
What are everyone else's oppinions on this? I know some people have agreed with me on vent. Are there others out there?

[Undertow]

I havent played on the Cassino server. But the Barbarossa server i like the way it is other than one thing. I dont think you need a time limit. I mean its the same map over & over, So why not play untill theres a winner. It sucks when they have one base left & theres less than 2 minutes left. You scramble to get there & oh well time ran out. As for there being too many players/ Not enough vehicles. I dont mind being on foot. For the most part i do my most damage when i cross the map on foot & steal a tank or find a spot that spawns Bazooka's/Panzerschrek. And if driving by houses gets you paranoid because of bazooka's, Then go around them. I havent seen a spot on Barbarossa that you have to drive between houses other than the Russian's 3rd base. And even then you really dont have to drive down that road you can always go around. Thats the beauty of that map its frickin huge. Its hard enough to get in that server as it is with the 31 slot's please dont cut it down. I'll never be able to play on it!

[Silver]

dear god dont touch barb!!!!!! there is a cult following on that server. as for the mg on cassino... fuck'em leave them in, in war there were mgs and i think they rock they have there advantages but more then that they have there disadvantages.

as for the rocket jumps.... the only problem i have is on one roof which is not popular to get to anyways you can glitch down bleow the roof line and snipe out through the wall. i kick/ban people for that. to me thats cheating. other then that when people rocket jump on roofs i love to kill them...it so easy and ussally there score suck from getting killed so much...but i say turn off the shell shock

[Bargod]

I just think that with no tanks we don't really need rockets, and I hate going into spec when I think someone is on that roof u can shoot thru. As long as they stick to the roof where others can hit them it's fine, but I just think life would be easier without the rockets.
As for the mg's, so many people complain about spawn killing and I think it's mostly the mg's that piss them off. I know I get most of my kills by spawn killing, but it's with a rifle so it's not so bad, right? Hell, If I could have my way it'd be rifle only, but I realize that probably wouldn't be very popular.

[Undertow]

Hell, If I could have my way it'd be rifle only, but I realize that probably wouldn't be very popular.

I'd play rifle only. Thats all i use on Barbarossa. I'll have to jump on and check out the Cassino server. I dont know how to rocket jump, so you wont have to look for me on a roof top. You can kill me on the ground.

[Spectre]

I agree with bargod. whats the use of rockets if there are no tanks. I like the no timlimit idea also.

[The_redeemer]

no timelimit is absolutely ridiculous- Ok, it gets to a point where there is a stalemate, neither team will win.



it happens when it is 35 min too



so a no timelimit is ridiculous.



and for casino, you take out rockets, people can just use nades to do the same thing, both have same effectand i've seen people use both

[William Wallace]

no timelimit is absolutely ridiculous- Ok, it gets to a point where there is a stalemate, neither team will win.



it happens when it is 35 min too



so a no timelimit is ridiculous.



and for casino, you take out rockets, people can just use nades to do the same thing, both have same effectand i've seen people use both

I do agree with Silver that Barb should stay the same.
I do though have a suggestion to add sidecar motorcycles to the map. I played one version of the map with sidecars and it was awesome you could get around twice as fast as a jeep and tanks had a hard time picking you off.

You could also get to the enemy bases quickly and try to arm hopefully preventing a tie game.

Not sure who made the map or how you could add the sidecars but would certainly be a great addition.

[blk96gt]

and for casino, you take out rockets, people can just use nades to do the same thing, both have same effectand i've seen people use both

True, but the rockets serve no purpose without tanks. They are just annoying when some moron shoots you with a rocket from accross the map, which it rarely kills you, but brings your health down a bit and pisses you off. Same with the stationary MG's. It takes no skill at all to use those guns. Any dickweasle can run(sit) around with one of those and get a few kills. I don't mind getting spawn killed by a rifle, STG, BAR, SMG, etc, but to get killed by some cockhead sitting with a stationary mg is just gay.

[Undertow]

no timelimit is absolutely ridiculous- Ok, it gets to a point where there is a stalemate, neither team will win.



it happens when it is 35 min too



so a no timelimit is ridiculous.

Check out the [MWHQ] server. They run stock maps with no time limit & there always full. Somtimes it can take awhile to blow the last base. But it can be done, it just takes a team effort. I've been in matches there that have lasted over an hour. And when its done they start another map.

Thats my point since you dont rotate the map why not play untill its over? I hate tie's & draws! I wanna win or lose! I'm not knocking your server, i like it alot. I just hate it when your almost there & time run's out & you start all over again. Its like sex, Your about to climax & she says im done get off me. I guess i just think that map would be fun with no time limit.

[Silver]

I do though have a suggestion to add sidecar motorcycles to the map.

that would be cool, i dont see why not...
can we get a few please!!!!

[The_redeemer]

the sidecars are awesome!!!!!!!1



andi agree with you blk. you make very good points. i was just making the point that the roofs can be had with/ or without rockets

[realdeal]

Thats my point since you dont rotate the map why not play untill its over? I hate tie's & draws! I wanna win or lose! I'm not knocking your server, i like it alot. I just hate it when your almost there & time run's out & you start all over again. Its like sex, Your about to climax & she says im done get off me. I guess i just think that map would be fun with no time limit.

Hmmmm.. that makes a lot of sense. Maybe we should remove the time limit on Barbarossa. ?

[The_redeemer]

remove the timelimits and climax more often!

[Bargod]

I say yes to the motorcycles, but HELL NO to the no timelimits. Half the time the 2 easiest bases on each side are blown in 10 minutes. The rest of the time is spent trying to bust the other side that is camping. I'd say one out of 10 of those times ends in a dramatic turn around.
I don't see any problem with ties and draws. If you can't get it done in the forst 30 you have a second 30 to try it in. If you can't do it there you both start over.
With no time limits you'll end up with 30 guys with artillary and nowhere to move. Just go to an all arty server. Very few exist anymore cuz they SUCK! You can't do anything cuz there is arty falling everywhere.
I'll agree to some of the arguements against my peaves. If the server is full when there are so many spots open then I guess I just need to accept that its better with more people. But most of the time when the russian 3 and the german 2 are the only bases left the map can't end quickly ennough. And I've heard from lots of people on the server who agree (during game time).
If nothing is done to change it, ok, but please, do not eliminate the time limits!

Plus (just thought of this) it sucks to come in on round 2 as it is. Lots of people have arty and know the flow of the game and you just come in and you've got nothing! That sucks! You just wait for the end of the second round so you can start fresh with everyone else. No time limits might actually make people leave cuz they don't want to deal with the bs until the next match. I know I would feel that way.