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post 08/10/05 11:46am
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looks nice, but i dont think it could hand that much of a pay load, maby a couple of A-A/A-G misslies


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post 08/10/05 12:03pm
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Here is the video.


http://bemil.chosun.com/movie%20link/SU-35.wmv


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post 08/10/05 1:55pm
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http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/switchblade.shtml

new fighter? I dont exactly trust the web site BUT....

I trust these guys... and according to them the su-37 is no longer in production... and they make a great arguement as to stealth v.s. manuveribility(?)

http://www.flymig.com/forum/posts/1106877863.htm?fr=1

not like it really matters during the Israel and Egypt conflict we sold isreal 100 of our forghters and russia sold egypt a shit load of theirs. during the 15 day war (I think that was the war) Russian fighter's (manned by russian piolts) fought the Israel airforce with our planes and lost. russian Gov. accused America of having our piolts in the seat when we had no piolts over there during that time. (and the planes sold were not our superior planes) like I believe never show your poker hand, always appera weak when you are strong. But who knows we really do need a better plane, and taking 20 years to develop one is BS all on its own.
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post 08/10/05 2:02pm
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http://www.answers.com/topic/sukhoi-su-47


Sukhoi has a new one comming out as well.


The point is that China is a threat and has said to us that they are a threat. We would be ignorant to think otherwise.



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post 08/11/05 6:31am
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QUOTE(Silver @ 08/10/05 6:55pm)
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not like it really matters during the Israel and Egypt conflict we sold isreal 100 of our forghters and russia sold egypt a shit load of theirs. during the 15 day war (I think that was the war) Russian fighter's (manned by russian piolts) fought the Israel airforce with our planes and lost. russian Gov. accused America of having our piolts in the seat when we had no piolts over there during that time. (and the planes sold were not our superior planes) like I believe never show your poker hand, always appera weak when you are strong. But who knows  we really do need a better plane, and taking 20 years to develop one is BS all on its own.
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Isrraeli pilots are believed by many to be the finest on the planet.


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post 08/11/05 9:04am
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Israeli pilots are very good because they not only have more training but have somewhere between 5 and 10 times as much flight time as compared to American pilots. I know their overall kill ratio is over 30:1, compared to America's 11:1 over the same period.
A book I read a long time ago talked about how during the 70's when Israel and Egypt where fighting. Egypt was going to stop buying Russina mig's because the mig's were unable to survive dogfights with the Isreali mirage.
Russia actually sent some of their best pilots to fly in place of Egyptian pilots to prove the Russian MIG 21 was a superior plane. All 5 Russina piloits died when they went up against Isreali pilots.


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post 08/11/05 9:15am
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yeah and they had a hissy fit the russians thought the piolts were actually americans. Israel does sme bold shit, they sent almost all their airforce up to take out egypt and left a handfull of plane to defend the skies of Israel. (like less then a doz. I believe)

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post 08/11/05 7:37pm
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The Israeli Army is, pound for pound, the toughest in the world. But that's because they have American technology and training and they are in a constant state of war.

China's military might not be as advanced as ours, but it's a tremendous force, and there's something to be said for the sheer number of boots they can put on the ground. What's scary about China is that for the last twenty-five years they have seen the US perched atop the world, and they are hungry to take our place, quietly but aggressively transforming itself so that it can. It's reminiscent of Japan in the period leading to WWII.

China has an inferiority complex, and that's dangerous.

I'm not confident that we have paid them enough attention in the last decade or so.
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post 08/11/05 7:38pm
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QUOTE(Druid @ 08/11/05 9:04am)
A book I read a long time ago talked about how during the 70's when Israel and Egypt where fighting. Egypt was going to stop buying Russina mig's because the mig's were unable to survive dogfights with the Isreali mirage.
Russia actually sent some of their best pilots to fly in place of Egyptian pilots to prove the Russian MIG 21 was a superior plane. All 5 Russina piloits died when they went up against Isreali pilots.
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Is it true that the Egyptian pilots refused to fly after awhile? Or am I thinking of Iraqi pilots during Desert storm?
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