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futureman
post 08/02/04 11:46am
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with the interesting three page political thread detailing why each canidate is not worthy of office, i was wondering if anyone would care to post positive, factual reasons that a canidate should be elected.

i am merely interested in specifics why the said canidate should receive my vote and not what his plans are in the future to help me should i vote for him. i dont wish to read negative opinions of the opposer on this thread. i wish only to be persuaded by historically correct, accountable actions of each canidate.

i realize this may be a difficult task considering the amount of negative bash that has risen, but the choice i make, i want to make because of what someone has already accomplished. i believe that i could make a good character judgement from where a man has stood and fought rather than where he tends (promises) to take me.

again, please only post what your canidate has done and why it should effect my vote. in other words, why does one man deserve MY vote?

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post 08/02/04 12:15pm
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http://www.issues2000.org/George_W__Bush.htm

http://www.issues2000.org/John_Kerry.htm

there is much on this site to read.

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post 08/02/04 12:45pm
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i wish i could vote...go bush..


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post 08/02/04 12:47pm
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very nice and persuasive, flame.
thank you.


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post 08/02/04 1:24pm
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Now this should be an interesting topic.
I'm sure a few points will not be raised without also showing the negative on the other side.

My vote will be for Bush and here is why.

1) Thanks to George Bush, we've backed away from the economy crushing Kyoto Protocol, the ABM Treaty which would have prevented us from building a missile defense, and the International Criminal Court which could have put our military & government officials under threat of frivolous prosecution.

2) George Bush is a strong supporter of a Federal Marriage Amendment which is the only way to stop liberal judges from imposing gay marriage on the states against the wishes of the voters and State Legislatures.

3) There has been alot of talk concerning Bush's tax break fro the wealthy. The fact is, He worked hard to end the marriage penalty, increased the size of the child tax credit, gave Americans their hard earned tax dollars back in the form of rebates, and saw to it that 92 million Americans got to keep an average of $1,083 more of their own money.

4) We've had 10 straight months of job growth and over a million jobs have been created this year so far thanks to George Bush's tax cut

5)Over the last nine months, the economy has been booming. In the 80s, the average GDP was +2.9%. In the 90s, the average GDP growth was 3.1%. Over the last three quarters, the average GDP growth of the economy has been a sizzling 5.4%.

6) In Afghanistan, we were told going in that the war would be long, difficult. A lesser man than George Bush might have gotten weak kneed at the prospect of sending our troops into a "mountainous Vietnam" and found some sort of excuse not to go. But, not only did we take the fight to our enemies in Afghanistan, we bombed Al-Qaeda's camps, decimated the Tali, drove them out of power in less than two months, and sent our enemies running to Pakistan and remote caves on the Afghan border, where they live even today as hunted men.

7) Although I question some parts of the Patriot Act, it has gone far to solving the problem shared information between law enforcement , FBI and intelligence officers and allowed them to talk to each other as they work to prevent future attacks.

8) We smashed Al-Qaeda's training camps in Afghanistan, killed or captured more than 2/3rd's of Al-Qaeda's leadership, have blocked Al-Qaeda from attacking inside the US for more than 2 1/2 years,and according to the 9/11 commission, Al-Qaeda's funding has started to dry up.
I have to ask anyone who thinks Bush did a bad job. The day after 9-11 did you think other attacks would be coming, probably in the next few years? I think yes and I firmly believe Bush's actions have stopped that from happening.
Something which wasn't widely reported but backed up by the 9-11 commission report. Part of the reason for the 9-11 attack was so Al-Qaeda could gain more recognition among arabs in the hopes of increasing their support and financing for larger attacks.

9) Made the right decision to invade Iraq considering the information he was given.
12 years and 17 U.N. resolutions had made no progress, it was time for action.

10) The vast majority of people in the service support him as commander and chief. I do not want someone in that position who is considered by most to be unworthy of the job.

11) Unlike the other candidate, Bush is a leader in the sense that he advocates certain policies and sticks to his word. Even if I disagree with his policies, I think that I understand what those policies are.


I'll list a few more later.



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post 08/02/04 5:04pm
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smooth opener.


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post 08/02/04 5:28pm
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an actor with a message.
(do not let famous persons sway your opinion one way or the other)


http://whitehousewest.com/


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post 08/02/04 5:43pm
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that ws great druid!!! If i could vote that would make me vote for bush!!!


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Very good points Druid gj bro.
And Future sorry i couldnt be of more advice but thats all i had to say is that I would vote for Bush for sure.
Hope this helps you decide homie cool.gif .


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post 08/02/04 7:22pm
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kerry has the intelligence to run the country and bush has the balls to bitch slap the world.
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LMFAO FUCKIN FUNNY SILVER !


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sory futerman i meant to say futureman not druid smile.gif


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post 08/02/04 11:45pm
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wait i meant druid...


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post 08/03/04 6:31am
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QUOTE (Dumpweed @ Aug 3 2004, 12:45 AM)
wait i meant druid...

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post 08/03/04 11:29am
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lets try and stay on topic.

as of now, i would probably vote bush.
i am not sold on either, though.
bush seems not to be the brightest star in the sky.
kerry seems like a peta backer.

which would be the right choice for commander in chief?
neither of these men.

i dont like the idea of settling for the lesser of 2 evils when choosing the president of the US. yes, bush surrounds himself with capable people though they have made some seemingly errors in intelligence, but i would personally like a president who not only surrounds himself with the right folks, but also has the ability to be "the man" when necessary.

my idea of a president is a guy who surrounds himself with intelligence, listens to those people but has the mindset and intelligence to take command of a situation no matter what the stakes or the consequence. a guy who demands attention from other world leaders. a man who is respected not for his might, but because he is an unbelievable person both on the podium and in the office.

i dont think kerry or GW fits my idea of a president.
i know that either would probably be adequate, but shit, why am i in a position to choose between these 2 below par canidates?


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