First, sorry to hear about your loss to RE.

Secondly, I saw on the homepage it says "laughable" match. I am 99% sure I know what you mean by laughable, but I thought I would ask for more insight into it.

We won, they lost. It was a good match. Need anything else Ashe?

I wasnt talking to you. Please stay on your forums.....that way there is at least one person on there.

Why start something Ashe? Last time I checked you guys were what 0-3, 0-4 against us? It was a good match, well played by all, save your crying for the next time you play us

Why start something? Because we are not the only ones that would have more fun watching grass grow then playing you guys. You should stick to OBJ or 2v2 where camping and hiding like scared little girls is acceptable. Play on OBJ only, where going 0-1 after 20 minutes of play is almost normal. 0-1 AFTER 20 MINUTES OF PLAYING ON DV!!! What the fuck were you doing to go 0-1 after 20 minutes? I am sure you were out hunting down the enemy, you fucking killer you. Damn son, if you fear getting shot and dying so much, go back to Mario Bros. I know exactly what you were doing, you were hiding in the damn church praying to God that Realdeal didnt come in there and pistol whip your punk ass like you deserved. Fuck you and fuck RE. This game is going through enough problems with hackers, losing clans for various games so on and so on, for there to be a clan that fucks up a perfectly good ladder by hiding like bitches and boring the team into submission every damn time they play.

Realdeal summed it up perfectly. Laughable.

Look at the scores Ashe, NO ONE was running/gunning. You guys have your strategy and we have ours. You don't have to like the way we play, this is true.
But the funny thing is that you guys camped when you played us and MOB camped tonight. I was 0-1 in the first round whoopee. I think you hurt my feelings.


Beat us Ashe. Then trash talk all you want.

I am not trash talking, I am speaking the truth. I never said you were shitty players, just boring as hell. Your style of play should be reserved for other modes then TDM.

Also, I was not talking to you in this post. I asked a simple question to one of the members of MOB. So if it is OK with you I will await a response from them.

np at all Ashe. I'm sure we will be seeing both you and MOB again in the very near future.

Um.. well, now, now,... you guys took a 10 point lead right off the bat and I never saw another RE player again.


You have your style and that is to camp. Thats fine. Just not much fun. To each his own.

I can certainly see Ashe's point how this style of play can kill the ladder though. Not many teams like to play like this.

Funny thing is, I didn't see another MOB player either. Weird how that worked out.....

Because you were hiding.


Look, like I said, you guys have your style of play and that's your prerogative. My opinion of it is that it's weak for a 6v6 match. It's bad enough on the 2v2 Real TDM.

But that's just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions right?

lol you guys were allies and all hid on tank side for the last 15 mins

I'm not sure who you're trying to convince here realdeal. we were in that match.. you guys camped the WHOLE time until the last 4 minutes... you didn't see us because we stopped running into your campsites... you can say what you want but we both know the truth.. look at the scores, we didn't spawn enough for you to win by spawn killing... but that's because you guys hid on tank ally the whole first map.

me and one of your guys were next to each other the whole map. only reason i didn't pop my head out again was he was camping behind the wall with an extreme advantage killed me twice in a row on that corner... same thing i did to you guys at the end of the second round. so don't act like you guys play different... its not the camping that kills the ladders, its the bullshit poor sportmanship crap like this. people cry when they lose, even when they play the same way...

That's just it, what were you doing? I wasn't in a corner hiding(or in the church either) and since I never saw you and their was total silence for about 12 minutes, I guess you guys were hiding too? LIke you said everyone has an opinion. Everyone seems to hate "camping" but EVERY clan does it, whether it is camping a spawn, or holding positions.

You know im going to chime in here because I agree with both sides in a way....I guess its because I don't play in lots of matched so I can see a third person point of view.....Everyone camps.....its plain and simple.....TLD does it MOB does it RE does it everyone does it....its just were we do it.....TLD, MOB, and DMG camps a good amount of time in tank and thats because then spawns can be forced hopefully and shit like that.....RE, though I haven't had any first hand knowledge, just what ive heard, likes to camp the church.....the funny thing is that when this happens you don't see each other for 10 mins now.....so really everyone camps.....I just thought I would bring this up.....

I agree with that guy. except we also camp to force the spawn.. only time we would be in the church is if we got pushed back into our spawns.. its a death trap back there.

There's no poor sportsmanship and I didn't see anyone crying. I was just stating my opinion. I think you guys coming over here are showing poor sportsmanship. You guys won the match fair and square. You're #1 now. You should be enjoying it with each other. Not over here on our forums trying to start shit. What I or anyone else thinks of your tactics should not matter to you.

{MOB} Loses #1 OGL Spot

In a laughable 6v6 OGL match, {MOB} was defeated by <RE> by a score of 102-75.

nah, thats not being a bad loser. you're right... I just wanted the others to know that your tactics were the same.

Again Sphinx, you should be enjoying your victory. What we post on our site is our business. You shouldn't worry about it. It is my opinion that this was a laughable match at best. You can post your opinions on your site. America's a great country isn't it?

Whether or not you think camping is "fun," it's an essential part of winning. You're not going to run and gun in a fight for #1, it's just not going to happen. I don't know what you guys were expecting, but with a record of 30-10 on the OGL, that's almost 40 weeks on the ladder, close to one year. You should know by now, that there is no run and gun within the top 10. I've seen it first hand, and at first I was upset myself.. having to camp the whole time, sometimes for whole ROUNDS at a time.

Anywho, the point I'm trying to get at IS, until you embrace camping as a part of the game, and the #1 tactic to winning matches, then maybe none of this would've happened.

No one likes to camp, but everyone likes to win. Make the decision.

Alright boys, as most if not all of you know I am a REG in MOB, NOT A MOB MEMBER so here is my 2 cents even though to epacy or vertigo it doesnt mean anything.

MOB and RE are both really good clans but have 2 seperate styles of play. Not ever playing in RE's server I have heard they camped a lot but have not experienced it first hand. Although I hate the camping style it is part of the game like SHIFTY with the sniper lol. Anyways what I am getting at and I hope I dont make any of the MOB members or REGS mad at me for putting this is,
CONGRATS to RE for winning the #1 spot, but I know MOB will be getting it back.

You're right Blind, we've been on the ladder a long time. MOB's been up the ladder, down the ladder, off the ladder and back again. With that said, I can honestly say that I have never played a 6v6 like that in all the time we've been playing on the ladder.



Mad at you? LMAO. You SHOULD congratulate them, they're #1.

I agree with Realdeal. We have played 43 matches on the OGL, but have never played in more boring matches then those against RE. They spawn, hide and dont move. Its just that simple. Compare the scores of all their matches and the maps they picked to the scores and maps picked of any other clan on the ladder.

Camping is part of the game, not the entire game. Camping and what RE does is two different things in my opinion. Camping is sitting in a strategic spot that is well traveled and trying to get as many kills as possible, spawn kills and the like.

RE hides in the most unusual places. They go to places where you have to hunt them down to find them. They stay off the beaten path.

For example. We were behind by a few kills on Stalingrad with about two minutes to go. My guys were running all over the place to find them and couldnt find them anywhere. One of my guys hit Tab to check the score and low and behold, they had guys that had gotten killed and did not respawn yet. Now there is no way to prove this, cause there is no way to prove when they were killed compared to when they finally did respawn, if they ever did. But my guys were all screaming on TS that the reason they couldnt find any of them was cause they werent respawning.

Is this the type of clan that should be in the number one spot? The next time we play them we are going to get the lead by 7 kills, then as they kill off each of our 6 players, we are never going to respawn. We will then win by 1 kill and they can spend the remaining time running around the server looking for us. Is this the type of team you want to play on the ladder? That is what it is like playing them. Bo-fuckin-ring.

of course you cant prove it ashe because its not true and you can see the ss at our site that shows all of us alive and 2 of your guys dead at the end of the match




we all know you cant get 7 up on us


RE-3
DMG-0

Camping or spawnkilling <RE> is #1..congrats guys well deserved..maybe next time we can play remagen

sad realdeal...

you just can't admit that you camped can you? Instead, you sit here and bad mouth anouther clan like your brother from DMG...i guess thats why the TLD boys didn't bring you with them.

Talk about ruining the game, DMG and RealDeal are have poor sportsmanship, you cant take the loss without whining, bitching and moaning. Your like a woman on her period. You guys dont run and gun like you claim, when DMG WAS winning against us 2 times, they camped and we have to attack them, its that simple. Dmg players kept going back to their same "positions" but thats not camping, thats run and gun, right. We came from behind because we can assault and we can also slaughter you but when you tried to assault us we racked up the kills and we werent in inconspicious places, thats just a poor excuse for your lack of skills.. As far as RealDeal, we smoke your silly behind everwhere, 6v6, 2v2, server play, it dosnt matter. RealDeal remember the 2v2 when you disputed after we beat you, after we let you sub a player that wasnt on your roster, now thats cheap, maybe you should change your name to RealJoke. Now Ashe and RealDeal go run along with your tails between your legs, maybe it will help stop the bleeding or do you need a larger tampon, your bleeding from your pussy.

Now that's what I call winning with grace and dignity. lol.

Yeah, looking back at it, I am really dissapointed about that


And when did I bad mouth your clan?




LOL. What part of go enjoy your victory don't you understand? I am honored that you are so concerned with what I think.

Let me try this again - You won the match. You should be celebrating your victory, not on our forums wasting your time with blabber. You talk about sportsmanship yet you continue to resort to name calling like a 14 year old. Please stop embarrassing yourselves.

You won the match! Congratulations! You're #1 - go enjoy it.

Post all about it on your forums. I am sure someone will see it.


Life's too short guys. Enjoy your win.

I know this is none of my bussniss but y r you crying about how realdeal posts....Re from wat i see you guys should back off and celebrete your #1 right now,its pretty hard to get there so stop crying and go back to your forums and celebrate there.

Who? Their moms?


Boy would that be a great celebration.

RE Forum Entitled "RE Takes #1"
"We won Bobshot"
"Sure did Etnie"
"Cya later Bobshot"
"Bye Etnie"

Ashe, why are you so obsessed with how many people we have posting in our forums? You need to focus more of your attention to on coming up with a plan to beat us instead of crying about how we have beat you. No, I have not played in any of the matches thus far, but I do know how they were all played. Let's get past this "camping pussies" and " Please stay on your forums.....that way there is at least one person on there" crap and get to the heart of the issue: you have not beat us and you like to whine about the way you have been beaten. GET OVER IT!

agreed Diesel

They won we lost.
Lets move on (and practice grenades)

ok this is like gay. re is looking like assholes, and i had respect for them since i thought they were a respectable clan. (not by whats being said and done on MOBS forums. HINT*{MOB}*END HINT!) second dont you people have a job or something besides posting all night over a game? be happy you can play it. if your happy, and you win be happy. if your happy and you lose be happy. gloating is for pink punks.

good christ people
you play how you play, i play how i play, we'll see how it turns out in the end. the match is over move on and play the next one, its people that dwell on a match for 3 fucking weeks and dispute over jack shit that hold up ladders, piss people off and ruin the game.

Amen, Vader!

Silver, we did not post, "In a laughable 6v6 OGL match, {MOB} was defeated by <RE> by a score of 102-75." on our homepage.

Regardless of what RealDeal says, it was a shot at us and he knows it. Of course ashe had to get in on it, as well. I could give a rats ass if any of you do/do not visit our forums but I visit MOB's quite often because it makes for good reading and entertainment. I also enjoy playing against {MOB}, you and the other regs on your server when my missionary doesn't lag me to death! Nobody is gloating about the win, just defending our ego's just like you or anyone else would if the roles were reversed. I respect the play of every clan involved in OGL and you will never find us bitching and moaning about a loss, PERIOD!

I agree with DIESEL.....let's move on. SHEESH!

Congrats on the win RE. As for being cowards. That you are. Not just in match play but in relations with clan mates/recruits. Bob was always a good guy, but the rest of you are back stabbing pricks, and you should go back to your boring forums and catch up on your sleep. You guys are so boring, thats why you lost one of your best recruits ever. Ominous. I would like to know who the coward is that has a "personal conflict" with me, or so i was told by Bob Shot. It was most likely sphinx. All i wanted was one of you to be a man and tell me what your problem was. You were obviously hiding behind Bob. He said he couldnt tell me. So i'm going to sum RE up with one word. Spineless.

DMSCER

Haha RE you fucking pussies. RE you know what happens to your clan when you can't camp, run away or do whatever pussy ass shit you guys pull? This

LoL, Scarface who are you again?

Congratulations to RE's match. This will probably be the only positive comments on this topic. RE, you guys played a good match, you have shown you know what you were doing in your style of play. Even though that that way isn't preferably to most others clans i do congratulate your guy's ability. I don't agree to your attacking people on the forums though. I believe both teams played a good game and it was a lot of fun. You guys earned your spot up there. I'm hoping we play again sometime.

it the words of a pussy

WHY CANT WE ALL JUST GET A LONG???


all smoke peace pipe?

hmmm, spineless pussies... yet you tried to join us twice, ambience. i wonder why you didn't get in? as far as the camping stuff.. i wish one of you would step up and be honest.. don't know what you're scared of. but think about it... alot of you guys do nothing but camp in regular server play... yet, you want people to believe that in matches you run and gun??? i never camp in regular play but I will in match play, because all the other clans do it.

I am sorry for getting pissed by the hypocritical comment, it just irks me that people do that... I know it won't change how you are, its just stupid. anyway, to those members that played in the match and know the real way the thing was played, good game.

sorry for the invasion of your site.

sphinx...

remember, this is only a game and we should be having fun. Not starting rivalries, we should all be congratulating and not starting stuff.

yeah but thats an opinion. is it a fact? no, why defend an ego? people get shot over stupid shit like that. call me an asshole an ill agree! tell me or other people im a thief and ill kick your ass! see the difference? one is an accusation and the other is a opinion.
now all, get high!

BTW CONGRATS! IF YOU FOUND A STYLE THAT CAN BEAT DIESEL SCHOOL ME!

alright Real, heres my advice this may be making you (MOB) and RE both look like asses.

Stock you put exactly right, great game and thats pretty much what I said. Congrats RE, but guys MOB and RE don't you both think the shit talking will reflect both of you. GUYS GET ALONG,
Real I would close this probalby,
FLAME

I didn't bother to read much past page 2 since the posts were all the same. You camped, no you did, we did same as you, blah blah blah.

Bottom line if neither side assaulted the other then it would be safe to say you both camped. Judging by the scores the second round that's exactly what both teams did. You are the masters of the outcome of the match, either side has that advantage. You either take it or you don't and neither side should bash or trash talk the other.

I remember a match with MYTH with the {RSHA} where both sides waited around for the other side to assault. First round was 0 to 0 and I was so bored I posted on MYTHs forums during the match from a second computer ( lol ) but that's what both sides did. No one is to blame.

But Real Deal you did post something that can be taken the wrong way or in an insulting way. When Bob posted you got mad and said to keep to his own forums and say what he likes because it is America/Free country. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you do have a PUBLIC website with a PUBLIC forum which would lead me to believe that Bob or anyone willing to come here and debate, post congrats, anger or pictures of pink fluffy bunnies is able to since we live in America the land of the free.

have we ever seen you before? lol. Lets end the bickering and whining and get along. Its only a game and its not worth getting worked up over.

Hermann, I didn't get mad. I just stated that I could post it and if he didn't like it he didn't have to come here to see it.

Other than that he is certainly welcome here, though I would prefer the photos of pink fluffy bunnies over the contents of this thread

You see, I've always had this thing about pink fluffy bunnies, it started at about the age of.... Ahhhh... that's for another thread.

Anyhow, this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion at this point. MOB lost, RE won - Congratulations go to RE.

I knew it RD your in to the Pink Bunnies..LOL...Personally its a {MOB} WebSite so RD can post what ever the fuck he wanted..If RE takes it the wrong way..OH Well..When RE pay's for the web space, then I guess RE will have a say in what {MOB} wants to post...

So what it was a slow match & RE played smart knowing full well {MOB} is more Spawn Killing type clan...Saying {MOB} camped also,well maybe they did..I look at it this wasy {MOB} also played the first half smart....I would rather be down by 7 kills & look to get some of those kills back the start of the 2nd half, rather than be down 20 kills because the other clan camped the church & you tried to assualt it with out a good plan...Not saying {MOB} did not have a good plan(Just making a point)...& kills is not alot of ley way on DV especially if you can get them caught in their spawn in the start of the map...


Both clans have good players & good ideas how to play these maps.All though they may be different styles of play, they seem to work for them...Stock is right its a just a game....RD making his special comment on the front page,again its his site...I do understand RE has a right to defend themselves....I like both these clans...I would hope to see them not bicker about 40 mintues of a match on a video game, because you all are good peoples....

On a side note look its Diesel at his best taking one for the team