I and a few other regulars are curious as to the lack of support by MOB's own members in the new MOB server. So far Deuce, Lt.Stone, LOM, and Druid have been supporting it, and yet most other regular MOB players are not dropping in at all.

Since it's your server, should you not be in there supporting it?

Is it a monkey see monkey do attitude to follow other players into the main server, where there are more inexperienced players easier to kill? Can it be MOB regulars are actually afraid to try something new, that may inflict a much lower score than what they are use to in the regular Goodfellas server because they are unfamiliar with the new maps, and don't know the spawn areas? Do I smell Tuna?... Anyone can play the same map for 2 years and get high scores.

Even if its for a hour, or for a show up time to time, it makes a difference supporting "your own server". If other regulars see more MOB members coming in, it would give them more inspiration to show up to see what they are really made of.

I've seen some high scores by regulars in Wiseguys that can kick MOB ass pretty good. It seems to be a whole different ball game when your in unknown territory. Scary ay? Anyway, this thread is not to draw out arguments or boring quotes picking this posted thread, its to find out what....

is your excuses are for not turning up on your server with the new maps?

wow i would love to play new maps. I am a retard but whats the ip for that server? Do i need to download new maps? Anyone know if they will work on a mac + do i put them in the maps folder? wish i could afford a pc but i killed the last one i had, im having trouble killing the mac!

P.S. anyone know anything about macs? I have some questions!

maps.mobclan.com

69.56.164.123

is that server on miss yet/

Kirby - Some of MOB likes custom maps and some don't. That's pretty much what is comes down to. I personally, hate custom maps and you will rarely see me in that server, just as I rarely played on the COD server when we had it running.

That's about sums it up.

Hey Kirby,

Is this the new server with all the custom maps you had to download?? I have been in there several times and not once has anyone been in there. Let me know what times you play..Maybe we can designate a time when we can all show up and play a while. Let me know

**I**

Well some of these custom maps are just as good as originals if not better. So I don't understand why there hated (pretty extreme word). Epacy I guess I would have to be removed from a clan to know what detest means. Anyway the post concerns reasons why some MOB have no interest in there own custom server.

Silver the link is on front page of map, with map download pack.

Hello Independent, usually I find 8pm up people drop in. If you do and no ones there wait about 5 mins. Usually others drop in to see if anyones there. It only takes one to get things going.

Post has nothing to do with you Epacy, and I went beyond highschool (which your still attending). Buy the way it appears you can't read very well. Look at the original post and the last comment about boring stupid quotes (bottom). Any dummy can quote and make fun of any post. You proved it again and again. By the way my trade has always been a licensed Customs Commodity Specialist for the HS System. You will have to look on the net to figure that out. It will keep you busy and out of trouble for a few minutes while I get some answers here.

And thus another thread quickly degrades to insults and pointless babble. I, like others, have shown up on the new maps, but usually (even after waiting 15 to 20 minutes) almost never see anyone else. The server seems to be down fairly regularly as well. However, I would love to play some MOBsters in there. Maybe it would level the playing field a little. I doubt it, but I wouldn't mind finding out.

Wait, Ep. I think you misunderstood me. I usually don't interject until it becomes pointless babble. I've got nothing pertinent to say. Therefore I have to wait until the insults start flying. At that point I can type whatever I want. It's a science, really.

Well well, the split personality shows there quite well. The Psycho logical thoughts of Epacy Freud. What a entertaining book that would be in a comic shop. Start now and practice what you just preached and you will gain that manhood plateau you quoted.

Well Real I disagree. I can post several maps that are much more interesting than the originals. Since the originals improvements have been made. Of course not every map made is better, and the early attempts show so.

The last quote was to Epacy to remind him what the original post was about. Ok I am glad you posted.... where are the others? Come on Mobers your out there and there must be several other reasons other than you hate, detest, as one said etc alternative maps.

Alright, I'm gonna stay away from resorting to quotes & makes this short & sweet. Basically Kirby, the fact that you come in here & call out MOB, pisses me off. Some do & some do not like custom maps, I think they are so-so, that's MY opinion. I have been in there a few times, I like some maps & others I do not. You like the custom maps as do others, I would recommend making posts in the forums reminding people about them, telling them which maps are in & do a vote on it. Something to that regard, but to come off the way you did disgusts me!

Also, I'll be damned if I ever go into the custom map server now.

UNREAL

There are a couple of things I would like to say. I myself like to play on new maps and find it a change from the regular maps .However it is wrong to try and push this server on to other people.Everyone has the freedom of choice. What server a mob players goes on is no concern for anyone.I myself being a member of MOB have not tried to push anyone into any server from my clan .If they want to play they are welcome. The new map server has to make it on its own
One of the problems has been people go on and no one is there.It seems most of the playing on this server happens after 8 or 9 pm.
To all the people who read this thread if you want to try different maps give it a try if not enjoy yourself on the regular server.

Hey what can I say Panzer you got me I am a bad bad boy, going to these lengths to try to convince some of you MOB guys who don't support the new server to drop in. This was underhanded but I just about tried every other trick. Ya it was a ploy to get you's in, even if it was just to kick my ass. I emailed the idea to Real to show what I was up to after the post began.

As LOM said it is all your choices. I recall the last time in fact a new server was put up and most of the mob players never supported it then either. I recall too that I posted several posts on updates, jpgs of the maps etc and no one said a thanks or good idea! The first time I did this in 2003 posting upteen screen shots and map links wasting my personal time trying to get mob people to come into the new server. Well I posted several maps, jpgs etc just like before, and I really don't want to see the same results in the end if at all possible.

I enjoy the new map server, and yes I got pushy if it takes a push to get some support. Sad thing is I should not have to resort to underlying tactics to get Mob members to appear in there own server... that is what you said, disgusting.

Anyway this didn't work to well. Sorry for any upsets and you all go do your own thing. I will pull my name out of the suggestion box.

Weird Real, that was suppost to read " I've seen several posted maps better than the originals " I must of been in a hurry and typed it wrong.

I would like to start by saying my first post in this thread was a joke to lighten the mood.
Now I would like to be serious.
I understand what Kirby is saying. If the MOB is going to have a new maps server, then it should be supported by the MOB. I understand many people don't like change. However, if you are going to do it, you should make an effort to show up occasionaly. I think this thread got out of hand way too quickly. I may be a noob, but since I've come on here I haven't read anything negative from Kirby. Quite the contrary. He seems to support the MOB as if he were a clan member. Like I said, I'm a noob, so I can't speak of posts before my arrival.
Also, being a noob, many vets may not be inclined to listen to me at all. I understand. All I'm trying to say is this has been blown way out of proportion.
I think it boils down to this... If MOB is going to host a site, they should make an effort to support it. There is no reason for any hostility. If you don't want to play it, cool. I've tried, but it's almost always empty. This might change if I saw Cobra and Deuce playing there occasioinaly. They might, for all I know, but when I'm there I don't see them.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, and I hope I never have to be the voice of reason again.

And now, on a lighter note...
Leave it to the Canadians to cause trouble!

I'm not going to waste my time breaking it down; but, Kirby the problem was last time you went overboard with the SS's, that I just stopped reading your posts. Kirby I understand you like the custom maps, I find it a nice break when I get sick of the normal rotation. But to call us out, will never have a positive result. Knowing us like you do, why would you ever think bad mouthing us and talking shit would work?


As nice as some of those maps are, they are simply too big. I would have started with smaller maps, then once the server gained in popularity gone to larger ones...IMO.

The main reason I don't frequest custom map servers often is that I have to have all of those maps out of my main folder for matches (Reverend). Quite frankly, I'm too lazy to keep moving the maps back and forth so I usually just hang out on stock map servers.

Kirby, the best way to get people on the server is to schedule a time with 3-4 others and hop on the server. You don't have to have MOB members on to fill the server, and nagging them to appear will only cause understandable resentment.

You know a year ago I recall mob were just a group of good guys... now there seems to be a lot of sarcasum going around here after you support them and offer some good suggestions.... what did you offer busta? You have the attitude of your brother, and maybe you should had learned something from that ban? Grow up asshole. Hows that for sarcasum... do I pass ?

Yep Panzer unfortunate tactic. Seems badmouthing is becomeing the new fad here. Last week a 13 year old kid was given a lot of attention for it. Be Mr. Nice guy no one seems to listen. Go on a rampage and kaboom, results. But .. not always positive. I'm backing off with the suggestions, others turns.

Ya Epacy a lot were glad to see you gone, you were like a bad weed, that got pulled. Daddys still your buddy thats nice.

Wow, you cats got all riled up here. I think Kirby may have had a good point but it got twisted.

The thing i dont dig on about new maps is like necro kitty said, anytime i download maps when they go to the main folder. missonary will work fine for maybe a day then i start getting all sorts of errors and its a pain in the fucking ass to fix. I want to play on the new server but alot of those new maps are hard to learn because one they are big and two not enough people.

MOB has a good number of guys and I think Kirby was saying is he wants the new server to be as full as the good fellas server and was trying to see if you guys were going to maybe have a night where alot of mobs are in there for the talent and to popularize the server.

As far as the bickering its alot of bullshit. Its not productive, and pulling out educational achievments on message board is as lame as arguing on one. I have noticed most MOB members are nice guys chilling out so just because they dont play a server doesnt take away from them. Ive noticed that some non mobs are total assholes. i wont mention names because they know. Who really cares.

Anyway, playing Map's is a gamers choice. I hate playing on algiers but its in rotation so i do. New maps arent like the regular ones because they been designed by people. theyre usually to big and laggy.

So fuck it yall lets just kill people. and as always come after me hell. I havent played in a little while and im more then willing to hunt yall down.

cyphers .02

New maps = lotsa campers. I don't like campers. They are a waste of a slot on a good server. Ergo, I don't play on the new map server.

Cypher

Opp:

Yeah it's supposed to be completely stock - the custom maps will show up in the MatchWatch log as non-stock files and can be contestable by the other team so I always take them out just to be sure.

POINT 1: Well busta you went off topic. If you noticed in the original thread at the bottom. I asked to refrain from boring quotes. Well ...... here you are with the borrrrring qoutes.

POINT 2: Had you read the thread correctly you would had seen I already gave a valid response fully explaining myself as to why I approached useing a bait method. I even appologized at one point that I used that kind of tactic. Drink a coffee and re-read.

As for sarcasum, you come off sarcastic you get it back with me. I don't kiss butt pal, I contributed to this clan, you had to make fun of the fact. I asked you what you contributed? Druid for example asked for maps, I seen very few posted, so I went overboard, but at least I put forth some ideas. You put forth sarcasum for the suggesting and you received what you put out ... sarcasum.

By the way, I was asked to join the clan early 2002 around the time it was formed.
They stated they had several older members. I didn't have the spare time at that point for gaming, but I've always supported the server when I could get in.

One thing I have noticed since then. If someone makes a suggestion or comment or even compliment, a few of the Mob members pick them over, assuming there is a underlying reason for there comment. It usually turns into sarcasum, and I have seen it put off several members, and regulars.

Anyway re-read point 2. I posted a alternative tactic to hopefully bait some players into the server. I already stated it was a bad move, bad idea. agreed and as Panzer said bad call.

Do you guys have any problems when adding new maps or skins on missonary?

fuck it dude run solo its much better that way.

I just read this entire thread again (i'm at work, what else am I gonna do?).

I have come to the following conclusion:

All you players that think that you are actually playing this game by cowering behind boxes, doors, barrels, couches, trees, bushes, or rocks, this server is for you! You can all join a server of your peers and rejoice when, after 20 minutes of stellar gameplay, the final score is 1-0, the margin of victory coming from one of the less-skilled (heh, less skilled) players falling off the roof he was so anxiously perched on when was startled by the microwave chime, signaling the long-awaited completion of his ham and cheese Hot Pockets.

To anybody that thinks this sounds like a great time, join our new map server and brace yourself for teeth-rattling action.



Cypher

why you gotta dog hotpockets?

I was asked to join your clan Real back when you guys were just starting. I was only on the server a good week. It was either Druid, Clan? It's been a long time, and to be honest I can't recall the name. It was someone of authority at that time, and there was no bring in, question and the more careful selection process that goes no now. But its no bull. I remember the person stating there were several older players on the server, Raven etc. I was jumping from server to server, then stayed here finally deciding it was the best selection.

Also when I was asked I recalled several mob tags being here at the time. I was not into the game play heavy at that time. I also didn't know much about clans, or matches etc. I recall then I was not heavy into the MOH gameing, just when I had the chance to get in. Obviously back then there was a more lax selection, but a lot of more inexperienced players since the game was relatively new. The only reason for passing was I didn't have a lot of time back then. I would had been unreliable in commitment.