hello MOB,
my name is OvErKiLL , my reputation is known over the mohaa community
as a respectful , but a no-nosense guy.
i've been in only a few clans
=]DoW[= ; {1CAB} ; <1st>Rangers Battalion ;
<<PF>> Phoenix Force ( co-founder)
and my new clan
i read your front page report on 7th , interesting as for the example you said about hiding and getting naded.
let me ask you one question on that matter. Have you ever known a place in a map occupied by enemy and known of a spot used in this occupation , and dump a blind nade with a kill result.
playing this game people pick this stuff up, a blind nade is not a cheat, but a gamble. which sometimes pays off.
Caine had to have conclusive evidence and niether admins could produce it.
your quiting OGL , was not a good example of a respectable clan which I thought you guys were.
you guys got alot of great guys in this clan.
i once posted a topic on 7th's method of covering a map and making you spawn in one spawn point and blanketing that point with fire ,so it is virtually impossible to over come them. I thought it a cheap tactic.
but as i played more competetive clans i seen it is a tactical move everyone tries to use , they only have perfected it.
i left <<PF>> and soon as i did Dirty Harry , even after my bashing them in OGL's forum , asked me to join up. I was against the thought at first ,but after looking at all the clans i choose to do it , only because i know these guys, they are like you and me , they hate cheaters and would do everything they could to help rid mohaa of all cheats.
you don't have to believe me and go on being sore. but if you ask around and find people who know me , they will tell you i would never be part of a cheating clan.
and i'm not. my game is defaulted so no one can accuse me , i don't even have custom maps.
this is probably a waste of my time but i felt you needed to hear it.
get over it , and move on. and next time someone or something like this happens , stand up brush yourselves off and try again.
don't tuck your tails between your legs and run away like cowardly dogs.
OvErKiLL ,over and out. (you can kill my connection to your forum now , i'm done)
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you talk like we know nothing about tactics or even this game. We have only been beaten ONE time by a clan that did not cheat and that was by =DOA=...a long, long time ago in our infancy. "locking down a map" is what we do. Do you honestly think this is the first time we played the game?
with that said I want to bring up a few points....a blind nade into a room is not uncommon, but repeatedly and at the exact moment you enter it?
you fail to see the facts here...I personally do not think that all of the 7th cheated, but I'm sure a couple did. How can you simply explain away your top scoring guy failing to send in his screen shots after repeatedly being told by both the admins. and his own captain to do so, and please dont try and say he didn't know...we have a screenshot of him leaving as we were all gathered to take them. You go on to say that Cain had no conclusive evidence and the admins could not produce it.
I put it to you this way...is OJ Simpson guilty? The glove fit...he ran... he had blood on his hands, and of course a motive,but guess what OJ would not hand over the murder weapon.
saying we "ran" away from the ladder is funny to me...the last few matches we played in the cheating was ridiculously apparent, and who the hell wants to play like that? We left to prove a point...CHEATING IS FOR UNSKILLED WEAK LOOSERS who try and download their way to the top. Hey...if this is how you get your rocks off then so be it, but I for one am not going to stand around and be a part of it. The amazing amount of support we have received from the MOH community speaks for itself...we made the right move.
with that said I want to bring up a few points....a blind nade into a room is not uncommon, but repeatedly and at the exact moment you enter it?
you fail to see the facts here...I personally do not think that all of the 7th cheated, but I'm sure a couple did. How can you simply explain away your top scoring guy failing to send in his screen shots after repeatedly being told by both the admins. and his own captain to do so, and please dont try and say he didn't know...we have a screenshot of him leaving as we were all gathered to take them. You go on to say that Cain had no conclusive evidence and the admins could not produce it.
I put it to you this way...is OJ Simpson guilty? The glove fit...he ran... he had blood on his hands, and of course a motive,but guess what OJ would not hand over the murder weapon.
saying we "ran" away from the ladder is funny to me...the last few matches we played in the cheating was ridiculously apparent, and who the hell wants to play like that? We left to prove a point...CHEATING IS FOR UNSKILLED WEAK LOOSERS who try and download their way to the top. Hey...if this is how you get your rocks off then so be it, but I for one am not going to stand around and be a part of it. The amazing amount of support we have received from the MOH community speaks for itself...we made the right move.
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamnnnnnnnnn!
Wow Over....really suprising post. Considering we spent some time together in the PF clan getting to know you over these last few months. I just know that two months ago you had a different opinion about the 7th and what happened to pf vs the 7th in December. Not sure what justifies it now and not then is all.
But to have Mob present their case in whole like they did..it doesnt make sense to deny what happened. Maybe I missed something but it was pretty obvious even from the admins viewpoint.
What mob is doing is making this game and its ladder play more enticing again for us true players of this game. I for one am glad that this happened. MoB has decided to not just qiut. They dusted themselves off...laughed at ogl for what happened and are now making it a better mohaa-world for many.
Now I know you wouldnt up and join a cheating clan. I know your integrity and I feel you dont cheat or would align yourself with cheaters. I dont know what to say about that whole deal reagarding this. Not to judge your technique in spotting cheaters...but we have all been fooled before.
One thing that hasnt come out outside of PF is why I left. I left because I got sick and tired of cheaters. Everynight there was someone somewhere on the server doing it. A few ppl within the clan were even suspected. i got tired of it and I left Phoenix Force and BoRo due to this. I , like you, had lost the will to play seriously anymore with this game. But we know when someone is cheating too..you and I. RealDeal and others have been at this a long time just like us. They arent script-kiddies either for that matter. Doesnt that hold a little worth in their decision? Right or wrong....it will be for the better. Hope maybe you can understand that.
but again...
"get over it , and move on. and next time someone or something like this happens , stand up brush yourselves off and try again.
don't tuck your tails between your legs and run away like cowardly dogs."
Not only did they get over it..they did something about it. Quitting...no. They moved on and are now forming a better gaming ladder for the true clans out there. A bit harsh I think..your words that is. But we all make mistakes..so.
Gl man...and see ya on the servers..
(sorry if i went off topic during this guys...)
Wow Over....really suprising post. Considering we spent some time together in the PF clan getting to know you over these last few months. I just know that two months ago you had a different opinion about the 7th and what happened to pf vs the 7th in December. Not sure what justifies it now and not then is all.
But to have Mob present their case in whole like they did..it doesnt make sense to deny what happened. Maybe I missed something but it was pretty obvious even from the admins viewpoint.
What mob is doing is making this game and its ladder play more enticing again for us true players of this game. I for one am glad that this happened. MoB has decided to not just qiut. They dusted themselves off...laughed at ogl for what happened and are now making it a better mohaa-world for many.
Now I know you wouldnt up and join a cheating clan. I know your integrity and I feel you dont cheat or would align yourself with cheaters. I dont know what to say about that whole deal reagarding this. Not to judge your technique in spotting cheaters...but we have all been fooled before.
One thing that hasnt come out outside of PF is why I left. I left because I got sick and tired of cheaters. Everynight there was someone somewhere on the server doing it. A few ppl within the clan were even suspected. i got tired of it and I left Phoenix Force and BoRo due to this. I , like you, had lost the will to play seriously anymore with this game. But we know when someone is cheating too..you and I. RealDeal and others have been at this a long time just like us. They arent script-kiddies either for that matter. Doesnt that hold a little worth in their decision? Right or wrong....it will be for the better. Hope maybe you can understand that.
but again...
"get over it , and move on. and next time someone or something like this happens , stand up brush yourselves off and try again.
don't tuck your tails between your legs and run away like cowardly dogs."
Not only did they get over it..they did something about it. Quitting...no. They moved on and are now forming a better gaming ladder for the true clans out there. A bit harsh I think..your words that is. But we all make mistakes..so.
Gl man...and see ya on the servers..
(sorry if i went off topic during this guys...)
"How can you simply explain away your top scoring guy failing to send in his screen shots after repeatedly being told by both the admins. and his own captain to do so, and please dont try and say he didn't know...we have a screenshot of him leaving as we were all gathered to take them."
oh yeah..forgot that tidbit. Stole it from Nixons post..but its a major point. Its reeks of cheat and deniabilty ... REEKS i tell ya REEKS! heh.
oh yeah..forgot that tidbit. Stole it from Nixons post..but its a major point. Its reeks of cheat and deniabilty ... REEKS i tell ya REEKS! heh.
see misunderstanding, it happens
now did i ever say you guys never played the game b4 , nor did i say anything like the word n00b , so don't cross up my text.
NO!!!!!!
to be number 1 , duh you had to be and have to be something of veterans
but i said, i was done and said my piece , i just really hated to see you guys go , that is all.
my point also is 7th are not a clan of cheaters.
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hey outlaw dude , how' is the family and i didn't know you left phoenix .
their lose , you are great soldier , tell bone and jr OvErK said," wazzup buds."
now did i ever say you guys never played the game b4 , nor did i say anything like the word n00b , so don't cross up my text.
NO!!!!!!
to be number 1 , duh you had to be and have to be something of veterans
but i said, i was done and said my piece , i just really hated to see you guys go , that is all.
my point also is 7th are not a clan of cheaters.
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hey outlaw dude , how' is the family and i didn't know you left phoenix .
their lose , you are great soldier , tell bone and jr OvErK said," wazzup buds."
Good Stuff!
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hey outlaw dude , how' is the family and i didn't know you left phoenix .
their lose , you are great soldier , tell bone and jr OvErK said," wazzup buds."
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will do..bone is out of pf as well. so jr went along with us. lol...he wont be on as much for a bit...i will tell them you said hi.
hey outlaw dude , how' is the family and i didn't know you left phoenix .
their lose , you are great soldier , tell bone and jr OvErK said," wazzup buds."
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will do..bone is out of pf as well. so jr went along with us. lol...he wont be on as much for a bit...i will tell them you said hi.
| QUOTE (OvErKiLL @ Feb 23 2003, 07:41 PM) |
| hello MOB, my name is OvErKiLL , my reputation is known over the mohaa community as a respectful , but a no-nosense guy. i've been in only a few clans =]DoW[= ; {1CAB} ; <1st>Rangers Battalion ; <<PF>> Phoenix Force ( co-founder) and my new clan i read your front page report on 7th , interesting as for the example you said about hiding and getting naded. let me ask you one question on that matter. Have you ever known a place in a map occupied by enemy and known of a spot used in this occupation , and dump a blind nade with a kill result. playing this game people pick this stuff up, a blind nade is not a cheat, but a gamble. which sometimes pays off. Caine had to have conclusive evidence and niether admins could produce it. your quiting OGL , was not a good example of a respectable clan which I thought you guys were. you guys got alot of great guys in this clan. i once posted a topic on 7th's method of covering a map and making you spawn in one spawn point and blanketing that point with fire ,so it is virtually impossible to over come them. I thought it a cheap tactic. but as i played more competetive clans i seen it is a tactical move everyone tries to use , they only have perfected it. i left <<PF>> and soon as i did Dirty Harry , even after my bashing them in OGL's forum , asked me to join up. I was against the thought at first ,but after looking at all the clans i choose to do it , only because i know these guys, they are like you and me , they hate cheaters and would do everything they could to help rid mohaa of all cheats. you don't have to believe me and go on being sore. but if you ask around and find people who know me , they will tell you i would never be part of a cheating clan. and i'm not. my game is defaulted so no one can accuse me , i don't even have custom maps. this is probably a waste of my time but i felt you needed to hear it. get over it , and move on. and next time someone or something like this happens , stand up brush yourselves off and try again. don't tuck your tails between your legs and run away like cowardly dogs. OvErKiLL ,over and out. (you can kill my connection to your forum now , i'm done) |
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| my name is OvErKiLL , my reputation is known over the mohaa community as a respectful , but a no-nosense guy. |
Funny, I didn't know that.
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| i read your front page report on 7th , interesting as for the example you said about hiding and getting naded. let me ask you one question on that matter. Have you ever known a place in a map occupied by enemy and known of a spot used in this occupation , and dump a blind nade with a kill result. playing this game people pick this stuff up, a blind nade is not a cheat, but a gamble. which sometimes pays off. |
No kidding. We have all thrown blind nades into the nooks and crannies and occasionally come up with a kill. But every single time? C'mon.
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your quiting OGL , was not a good example of a respectable clan which I thought you guys were. |
Actually, it was very respectable of us and an excellent example to other clean clans. It also shows we do not need a ladder to prove ourselves. We know we're the best. We do not need to stay in a ladder full of cheats wherein the admins can do or don't do anything about it? A rematch with forced screen shots would have been the best solution to this problem.
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i once posted a topic on 7th's method of covering a map and making you spawn in one spawn point and blanketing that point with fire ,so it is virtually impossible to over come them. I thought it a cheap tactic. but as i played more competetive clans i seen it is a tactical move everyone tries to use , they only have perfected it. |
We know this tatic and have used it. This is not news to us. We are not amateurs.
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get over it , and move on. and next time someone or something like this happens , stand up brush yourselves off and try again. don't tuck your tails between your legs and run away like cowardly dogs. |
We are over it and have done exactly what you suggested... we moved on. We have not run away from cowardly dogs but we have left behind cheating clans that do not have the balls to play us on the up and up because they know what the end result will be.
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OvErKiLL ,over and out. (you can kill my connection to your forum now , i'm done) |
Nah, you'll be back.
I realize I have repeated alot of what my fellow clan members posted but I had to reply to this.
Overkill,
I challenge the fact that you have any idea what you have been saying. After saying that, I recommended that you put together concrete thoughts and express them in a fashionable manner if you want to come to our forums and debate. As of right now, your words are worthless.
I challenge the fact that you have any idea what you have been saying. After saying that, I recommended that you put together concrete thoughts and express them in a fashionable manner if you want to come to our forums and debate. As of right now, your words are worthless.
I just came back from reading the thread on the 7th site pertaining to this topic. Man...you have more proof on that thread than you do here in the forum. lol....you guys backed up everything you said...7th is looking a bit silly atm.
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some one call the whambulance for all those cronic whiners.
the fact is you lost and quit , so end of story , =COM=
i know how you guys started and that is all i'm saying on that don't open that pandora's box , it will only bring up all you guys past.
I'm OvErKiLL and i know to much about you nuthins
bottom line Caine made his decision and it stands.
if valid proof had been presnted to him a different story would of taken this one spot , so get over it and go on with whatever you got to do , but you quit OGL , so piss off.
sorry 6, but enuff is enuff.
these guys need a ton of cheese to go with that river of wine they are crying
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some one call the whambulance for all those cronic whiners.
the fact is you lost and quit , so end of story , =COM=
i know how you guys started and that is all i'm saying on that don't open that pandora's box , it will only bring up all you guys past.
I'm OvErKiLL and i know to much about you nuthins
bottom line Caine made his decision and it stands.
if valid proof had been presnted to him a different story would of taken this one spot , so get over it and go on with whatever you got to do , but you quit OGL , so piss off.
sorry 6, but enuff is enuff.
these guys need a ton of cheese to go with that river of wine they are crying
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If anyone has missed it, check out the thread on the 7th site and look at the comments made by this joker.
Here is the link http://7thrangers.suddenlaunch2.com/index....&num=1045718264
Keep in mind that the infamaous overkill is a TEAM B RESERVIST on the 7th Rangers. They must think highly of him.
Here is the link http://7thrangers.suddenlaunch2.com/index....&num=1045718264
Keep in mind that the infamaous overkill is a TEAM B RESERVIST on the 7th Rangers. They must think highly of him.
damn gomer beat me to it i was bringing it with me , guys i retract my saying you are good guys.
bottom line who is number one in ogl
and who quit
as for =com= backing you guys , well that is no back up i'd like to have in my corner knowing about their priors.
i've spent 3 hours reading this stuff , after trying to ignore it all
but it is like this i may self never run from a fight , and if i'm right i stand up and make it all come to my side, you don't achieve those things from running away
and if conclusive evidence had been there your nurse ratched mentioned there was NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
enjoy you cheese and wine fellows . GEEZ!!!!!!!!!! or CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!
bottom line who is number one in ogl
and who quit
as for =com= backing you guys , well that is no back up i'd like to have in my corner knowing about their priors.
i've spent 3 hours reading this stuff , after trying to ignore it all
but it is like this i may self never run from a fight , and if i'm right i stand up and make it all come to my side, you don't achieve those things from running away
and if conclusive evidence had been there your nurse ratched mentioned there was NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
enjoy you cheese and wine fellows . GEEZ!!!!!!!!!! or CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!
well again jumping to conclusions , i was suppose to be in halo but my ping prob made me turn down my appointedd position.
but you know what ask your friend Outlaw or better yet , have fun with it , you kittens need a ball of yarn to play with.
LOL . kittens(you know little pussies)
but you know what ask your friend Outlaw or better yet , have fun with it , you kittens need a ball of yarn to play with.
LOL . kittens(you know little pussies)
Overkill, you're showing your age now. If you're going to post here, please make an attempt at making it intelligent. Sorry to hear about your ping problems but I guess that's what happens when you buy your computer from a yard sale. (Thanks Clan)
why are we going back and forth with the water boy of the clan. He has been in more clans than he has had boyfriends. I will not read or respond to anymore comments made by a guy who whipes his general's ass every night hoping for a chance to be in a match one day. That is enough from a NO TALENT ASS CLOWN who gives out high quality H2O.
Clan
Clan
| QUOTE (Clan Killa @ Feb 23 2003, 11:22 PM) |
| why are we going back and forth with the water boy of the clan. He has been in more clans than he has had boyfriends. I will not read or respond to anymore comments made by a guy who whipes his general's ass every night hoping for a chance to be in a match one day. That is enough from a NO TALENT ASS CLOWN who gives out high quality H2O. Clan |
mama like
I have so many insults to spit out, but such little time so let me start out with
*edited*
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Now, now, Sniper. We don't have to go that route 
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| I have so many insults to spit out, but such little time so let me start out with *edited* |
haha..now THAT is funny....lol.
Deal i started off trying to be nice or whatever and then someone told me to read all you guys post and i got caught up in the river of tears and the nagging , and then it just seemed to me that maturity is not a factor in you guys domain.
as for your last post , garage sale hahaahaaa, funny guy
no i'm very much older than probably your oldest member.
i've learned to talk to people as i think they need to be talked to , you guys i figure
goo goo would not get my point across so i went with more of a elementary approach.
if you'd like , i can go back to the older more reasonable way but you guys don't understand reasoning and seem to run from it.
i'm bored now so goodbye and good luck in whatever your clan does, all kidding aside you guys have some great members and surely will make your way in whatever you do.
just don't run from your next fight but stand your ground and make it turn to your favor.
look at counter strike and it's overwhelming cheating.
mohaa is going to turn out the same way, so we need everyone to stand ground not turn it over.
sorry for my toying around , i'm done.
really i'm a very nice guy , Outlaw can vouch for me, really i apologize for the picking , i just do that to people i feel need it.
oh and clan killa if it not on your mind it is in your mouth , you bring gay talk in so you must have a gerbil in your azz. see i try to be nice and you guys go south.
as for your last post , garage sale hahaahaaa, funny guy
no i'm very much older than probably your oldest member.
i've learned to talk to people as i think they need to be talked to , you guys i figure
goo goo would not get my point across so i went with more of a elementary approach.
if you'd like , i can go back to the older more reasonable way but you guys don't understand reasoning and seem to run from it.
i'm bored now so goodbye and good luck in whatever your clan does, all kidding aside you guys have some great members and surely will make your way in whatever you do.
just don't run from your next fight but stand your ground and make it turn to your favor.
look at counter strike and it's overwhelming cheating.
mohaa is going to turn out the same way, so we need everyone to stand ground not turn it over.
sorry for my toying around , i'm done.
really i'm a very nice guy , Outlaw can vouch for me, really i apologize for the picking , i just do that to people i feel need it.
oh and clan killa if it not on your mind it is in your mouth , you bring gay talk in so you must have a gerbil in your azz. see i try to be nice and you guys go south.
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Now THAT is some funny shit! I'm so tempted to put it on the homepage.....
| QUOTE (OvErKiLL @ Feb 23 2003, 07:41 PM) |
| OvErKiLL ,over and out. (you can kill my connection to your forum now , i'm done) |
See, I told you he would be back.... LOL
Be gone overkill.
Sorry for the outburst, but u gotta admit the asshole deserves it.
You cheat, you lie, admit it to yourself, if you can't do that, than I pitty your sorry ass.
Oh and about the age thing, you sure do bitch alot if your over 55 (hint little old man's name you stupid douchebag he doesn't have that name for nothing.)
I'd suggest banning this dipshit, but then we'd be no better than them, banning someone who speaks against the clan the forum belongs to.
Have a nice day!
You cheat, you lie, admit it to yourself, if you can't do that, than I pitty your sorry ass.
Oh and about the age thing, you sure do bitch alot if your over 55 (hint little old man's name you stupid douchebag he doesn't have that name for nothing.)
I'd suggest banning this dipshit, but then we'd be no better than them, banning someone who speaks against the clan the forum belongs to.
Have a nice day!
I hate to stoke the fire here but....I see that you addressed the least important point that I made in my post....how about some comments on the important parts.
Again...like I said, I'm not trying to flame you or start a pissing match, but to me it's just all too clear.
Again...like I said, I'm not trying to flame you or start a pissing match, but to me it's just all too clear.
Sniper0001
Time for you to calm down
Everyone else
By my count around 50 good points were made on the 7th Rangers forum by us.
All of which were ignored.
By my count around a dozen good questions were asked by us.
Almost all of which were ignored.
The topic has over 500 views.
Have you seen any non 7th Rangers support?
While at the same time we have had support from 4 clans on the same ladder
^IW^
=COM=
75th ABN
[9th GD] Real TDM
Plus a few clans who don't even play Realism TDM. They play OBJ or Stock but who knew what happened and have either posted their support or have done so by email.
Even a clan like Kaos who I would say probably doesn't like us agree the ruling by Caine was a joke.
A little history for those of you who probably don't know.
The 75th ABN were the unbeatable TDM realism team on TWL for a long time.
Lots of people cried about them cheating and it was before there were any real cheats for MOHAA.
About a week before their 1st loss as #1. A member of the clan they were going to play had posted on a cheat forum talking about the new No-Fog hack.
The No-Fog hack is pretty simple and weak compared to hacks out now.
But at the time it would give someone the upper hand, especially in a foggy map like snowy. By a STRANGE coincidence the team they loss to chose Snowy Park as the map to play.
We are not the 1st #1 clan to lose to a cheater.
It will happen to everyone sooner or later.
At 1st glance I thought SCAF 6e's post was almost reasonably.
I thought maybe he realized the 7th had some real issues they needed to deal with. I can't really hold the whole clan accountable for 1 or 2 members cheating.
But after re reading SCAF 6e's post and the following post by other 7th Ranger members. The simple fact is, they are going to choice to ignore what is obviously to any other reasonable person.
I mean that's just plain silly. They are called "ladder administrators" not "ladder spectators" for a reason. SCAF 6e is trying to say the missing screenshot doesn't matter because the 2 OGL admins didn't really have a right to ask for them. Why? because they were only spectating the match.
Then when =COM= voiced support for us
He goes on to exaggerate one person as "=COM= who lit up Delator like a christmas tree" The cheat delator showed was a modified binary. SCAF 6e seems to know a fair amount about both Delator and CI. Yet somehow he has missed the 50 or so threads about Delator showing anyone using a Mac computer as cheating because of a "modified binary"
Maybe he missed all the treads about that Delator problem.
But if he did know about it, which by the way he did. Because =COM= contacted him about it.
So that means one thing, he was being disingenuous when he brought it up.
Clans come and go all the time.
I think {MOB} will be around for a while.
We can't do anything to them that they haven't already done to themselves, by their forum post and attitudes.
So don't waste any more time with them.
If they don't make some major changes. they will self-destruct on their own.
Time for you to calm down
Everyone else
By my count around 50 good points were made on the 7th Rangers forum by us.
All of which were ignored.
By my count around a dozen good questions were asked by us.
Almost all of which were ignored.
The topic has over 500 views.
Have you seen any non 7th Rangers support?
While at the same time we have had support from 4 clans on the same ladder
^IW^
=COM=
75th ABN
[9th GD] Real TDM
Plus a few clans who don't even play Realism TDM. They play OBJ or Stock but who knew what happened and have either posted their support or have done so by email.
Even a clan like Kaos who I would say probably doesn't like us agree the ruling by Caine was a joke.
A little history for those of you who probably don't know.
The 75th ABN were the unbeatable TDM realism team on TWL for a long time.
Lots of people cried about them cheating and it was before there were any real cheats for MOHAA.
About a week before their 1st loss as #1. A member of the clan they were going to play had posted on a cheat forum talking about the new No-Fog hack.
The No-Fog hack is pretty simple and weak compared to hacks out now.
But at the time it would give someone the upper hand, especially in a foggy map like snowy. By a STRANGE coincidence the team they loss to chose Snowy Park as the map to play.
We are not the 1st #1 clan to lose to a cheater.
It will happen to everyone sooner or later.
At 1st glance I thought SCAF 6e's post was almost reasonably.
I thought maybe he realized the 7th had some real issues they needed to deal with. I can't really hold the whole clan accountable for 1 or 2 members cheating.
But after re reading SCAF 6e's post and the following post by other 7th Ranger members. The simple fact is, they are going to choice to ignore what is obviously to any other reasonable person.
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| SCAF 6e In the match with MOB OGL was asked by both sides to "spectate" the match - if OGL intended to "administrate" the match they should have made that clear to both teams prior to the match. |
I mean that's just plain silly. They are called "ladder administrators" not "ladder spectators" for a reason. SCAF 6e is trying to say the missing screenshot doesn't matter because the 2 OGL admins didn't really have a right to ask for them. Why? because they were only spectating the match.
Then when =COM= voiced support for us
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| SCAF 6e =COM= who lit up Delator like a christmas tree |
He goes on to exaggerate one person as "=COM= who lit up Delator like a christmas tree" The cheat delator showed was a modified binary. SCAF 6e seems to know a fair amount about both Delator and CI. Yet somehow he has missed the 50 or so threads about Delator showing anyone using a Mac computer as cheating because of a "modified binary"
Maybe he missed all the treads about that Delator problem.
But if he did know about it, which by the way he did. Because =COM= contacted him about it.
So that means one thing, he was being disingenuous when he brought it up.
Clans come and go all the time.
I think {MOB} will be around for a while.
We can't do anything to them that they haven't already done to themselves, by their forum post and attitudes.
So don't waste any more time with them.
If they don't make some major changes. they will self-destruct on their own.
lol
What you failed to post about the 7th Rangers match was that their DirtyHarry was the FIRST to request to have OGL Admins spectate the match. You made it look like MOB was not only first to request an admin, but the ONLY one to request an admin. You are wrong. The 7th requested it first. Ask OGL.
Like it or not MOB is known throughout the MOHAA community as being hacked up. There are just too many people who have voiced this opinion. People who have caught your guys with anti-cheat software. MOB is listed on theCheatPolice.com for God's sake!
Harry also wrote to many of the clans that MOB played and asked what your tactics were on Destroyed Village.
For example, (and tell me if I'm wrong), most of the responses indicated that as Allies you have a man go to the 2nd floor of the building over the ruins. That man controls the ruins area, and everyone knows that for Axis to win you MUST control the ruins, so you wipe them out with the guy on the 2nd floor.
The 7th had a man stationed at the bottom of the steps peeking around the corner at the door. The same guy kept trying to take the 2nd floor and got nailed every time he entered the doorway. Why? Because he made SO much noise running up to the door the first few times. I heard ALL of your players made a lot of noise running around the map. Apparently it was humorous to the 7th that the #1 TDM clan made that much noise.
The guy on the steps KNEW you were coming. They received four responses telling them that the 2nd floor was your primary way of controlling the map. The guy never took his eyes off that door.
Many other email responses claimed that as Axis your main plan of taking Tank Street involved coming under the plank. Again, the SAME MAN was posted to not let anyone come under the plank, and from what I hear he did a great job of nailing your people every time.
He threw nades in the room under the plank KNOWING that you were going to try to take the area. All you're thinking of is the nades that hit you. Think of how many didn't because no one was there. Hmmm, life revolves only around you?
What you don't understand is that every other clan that was written to about MOB wrote back and gave exact details of your plans for Destroyed Village, and EVERY response claimed that they believed MOB was totally hacked up. In fact, one clan leader said that during a match they had to shut Delator off, because two of your guys kept getting kicked from the server!!!
You can't claim cheating when all it was was a great commander doing his homework on MOB. They KNEW what your plans were.
I don't know anything about Silver, so I can't help you there.
Now the word is that MOB players are going onto the 7th server impersonating 7th Rangers Holiday, DirtyHarry and Thor and asking other Rangers for the RCON password. Not cool, and close to illegal if you know the federal laws on server intrusion.
MOB for the first time couldn't use hacks, because they knew OGL admins would be there, and for the first time MOB got their butts kicked. Is this why you're claiming cheating? You were out-maneuvered on your own plans, and you logically think that it MUST have been cheating. "There's no way they could know our plans. They must have cheated." When the other team knows exactly what you're trying to do, it means, they know exactly what you're trying to do. Not cheating.
And besides, your IP numbers are listed on theCheatPolice.com. Look them up!
Next time, have a fallback plan in case your only plan goes bad.
What you should've done is stayed in OGL and went against them a 2nd time. Then when you were beaten just as badly, you would know that it wasn't cheating.
Nobody likes a quitter.
Whatever
Like it or not MOB is known throughout the MOHAA community as being hacked up. There are just too many people who have voiced this opinion. People who have caught your guys with anti-cheat software. MOB is listed on theCheatPolice.com for God's sake!
Harry also wrote to many of the clans that MOB played and asked what your tactics were on Destroyed Village.
For example, (and tell me if I'm wrong), most of the responses indicated that as Allies you have a man go to the 2nd floor of the building over the ruins. That man controls the ruins area, and everyone knows that for Axis to win you MUST control the ruins, so you wipe them out with the guy on the 2nd floor.
The 7th had a man stationed at the bottom of the steps peeking around the corner at the door. The same guy kept trying to take the 2nd floor and got nailed every time he entered the doorway. Why? Because he made SO much noise running up to the door the first few times. I heard ALL of your players made a lot of noise running around the map. Apparently it was humorous to the 7th that the #1 TDM clan made that much noise.
The guy on the steps KNEW you were coming. They received four responses telling them that the 2nd floor was your primary way of controlling the map. The guy never took his eyes off that door.
Many other email responses claimed that as Axis your main plan of taking Tank Street involved coming under the plank. Again, the SAME MAN was posted to not let anyone come under the plank, and from what I hear he did a great job of nailing your people every time.
He threw nades in the room under the plank KNOWING that you were going to try to take the area. All you're thinking of is the nades that hit you. Think of how many didn't because no one was there. Hmmm, life revolves only around you?
What you don't understand is that every other clan that was written to about MOB wrote back and gave exact details of your plans for Destroyed Village, and EVERY response claimed that they believed MOB was totally hacked up. In fact, one clan leader said that during a match they had to shut Delator off, because two of your guys kept getting kicked from the server!!!
You can't claim cheating when all it was was a great commander doing his homework on MOB. They KNEW what your plans were.
I don't know anything about Silver, so I can't help you there.
Now the word is that MOB players are going onto the 7th server impersonating 7th Rangers Holiday, DirtyHarry and Thor and asking other Rangers for the RCON password. Not cool, and close to illegal if you know the federal laws on server intrusion.
MOB for the first time couldn't use hacks, because they knew OGL admins would be there, and for the first time MOB got their butts kicked. Is this why you're claiming cheating? You were out-maneuvered on your own plans, and you logically think that it MUST have been cheating. "There's no way they could know our plans. They must have cheated." When the other team knows exactly what you're trying to do, it means, they know exactly what you're trying to do. Not cheating.
And besides, your IP numbers are listed on theCheatPolice.com. Look them up!
Next time, have a fallback plan in case your only plan goes bad.
What you should've done is stayed in OGL and went against them a 2nd time. Then when you were beaten just as badly, you would know that it wasn't cheating.
Nobody likes a quitter.
Whatever
Did anyone take time to read this drivel?
I did..unforunatly. this guy hasnt bothered with THE FACTS. his whole post is nothing but a long joke. shame he wasted such time. shame i wasted mine too. lol.
I think this argument has lost its luster. Time to get over it. 7th, good luck in your future endeavors. To everyone who has supported MOB, I say thank-you. We are not quiting, just moving on. The OGL ladder has been one debacle after another. From our first match to the last match. Plus we have watched the poor handling of case after case dealing with cheating with other Non-MOB matches. How many times did we have to wait for match because it was being disputed? Lets direct the irritation where it lies, with OGL. 7th Rangers have to live with their decisions and has to look themselves in the mirror. All this back and forth does nothing for us. OGL is responsible for policing their ladder. They made a decision we did not like so we decided that we can do better. We play this game for fun and when it starts to become personal (ie name calling etc.) it loses its fun. I for one play to win, but I also play for fun. I have surrounded myself with a great group of guys and on occasion gals, who play to have fun and to win. I do this in my RL as well, though I try to surround myself with more gals than guys. Anyway, After wasting a good hour reading all the posts I think I will go watch the news to remind myself whats important.
Kt
Kt
| QUOTE (Ktulu @ Feb 24 2003, 03:36 PM) |
| Anyway, After wasting a good hour reading all the posts I think I will go watch the news to remind myself whats important. Kt |
Hilarious!!!!
| QUOTE (Whatever @ Feb 24 2003, 02:50 PM) |
Harry also wrote to many of the clans that MOB played and asked what your tactics were on Destroyed Village. For example, (and tell me if I'm wrong), most of the responses indicated that as Allies you have a man go to the 2nd floor of the building over the ruins. That man controls the ruins area, and everyone knows that for Axis to win you MUST control the ruins, so you wipe them out with the guy on the 2nd floor. The 7th had a man stationed at the bottom of the steps peeking around the corner at the door. The same guy kept trying to take the 2nd floor and got nailed every time he entered the doorway. Why? Because he made SO much noise running up to the door the first few times. I heard ALL of your players made a lot of noise running around the map. Apparently it was humorous to the 7th that the #1 TDM clan made that much noise. The guy on the steps KNEW you were coming. They received four responses telling them that the 2nd floor was your primary way of controlling the map. The guy never took his eyes off that door. Many other email responses claimed that as Axis your main plan of taking Tank Street involved coming under the plank. Again, the SAME MAN was posted to not let anyone come under the plank, and from what I hear he did a great job of nailing your people every time. He threw nades in the room under the plank KNOWING that you were going to try to take the area. All you're thinking of is the nades that hit you. Think of how many didn't because no one was there. Hmmm, life revolves only around you? What you don't understand is that every other clan that was written to about MOB wrote back and gave exact details of your plans for Destroyed Village, and EVERY response claimed that they believed MOB was totally hacked up. In fact, one clan leader said that during a match they had to shut Delator off, because two of your guys kept getting kicked from the server!!! You can't claim cheating when all it was was a great commander doing his homework on MOB. They KNEW what your plans were. I don't know anything about Silver, so I can't help you there. Now the word is that MOB players are going onto the 7th server impersonating 7th Rangers Holiday, DirtyHarry and Thor and asking other Rangers for the RCON password. Not cool, and close to illegal if you know the federal laws on server intrusion. MOB for the first time couldn't use hacks, because they knew OGL admins would be there, and for the first time MOB got their butts kicked. Is this why you're claiming cheating? You were out-maneuvered on your own plans, and you logically think that it MUST have been cheating. "There's no way they could know our plans. They must have cheated." When the other team knows exactly what you're trying to do, it means, they know exactly what you're trying to do. Not cheating. And besides, your IP numbers are listed on theCheatPolice.com. Look them up! Next time, have a fallback plan in case your only plan goes bad. What you should've done is stayed in OGL and went against them a 2nd time. Then when you were beaten just as badly, you would know that it wasn't cheating. Nobody likes a quitter. Whatever |
First off, who are you and why are you here? Now....
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| What you failed to post about the 7th Rangers match was that their DirtyHarry was the FIRST to request to have OGL Admins spectate the match. You made it look like MOB was not only first to request an admin, but the ONLY one to request an admin. You are wrong. The 7th requested it first. Ask OGL. |
No, we never said that the 7th did not request an admin. The email from the OGL Admin which I linked to on the hompage clearly indicates that the 7th had also requested an admin. Please get your facts straight.
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Like it or not MOB is known throughout the MOHAA community as being hacked up. There are just too many people who have voiced this opinion. People who have caught your guys with anti-cheat software. MOB is listed on theCheatPolice.com for God's sake! |
Actually, you'r dead wrong. Our members are totally against cheats. {MOB} FK and {MOB} Druid are some of the most active members in the MOHAA community looking for ways to catch and deter cheaters. In fact, Druid has asked OGL to enforce random screenshots.. something they refuse to do that would stop cheating. Here's the link if you're interested:
http://www.worldogl.com/forum/showthread.p...&threadid=15741
Additionally, I am sure you know the program MOHAA Counter Intelligence, well take a look at the "about" screen and see whos name scrolls through the credits... that's right, {MOB}Druid.
Not to mention the fix to stop people from spawning objects and crashing MOHAA servers. That patch file was released by {MOB}Druid.
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| What you don't understand is that every other clan that was written to about MOB wrote back and gave exact details of your plans for Destroyed Village, and EVERY response claimed that they believed MOB was totally hacked up. |
I would like to see ALL of these emails you speak of from clans that claim to know our tactics so well.
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| In fact, one clan leader said that during a match they had to shut Delator off, because two of your guys kept getting kicked from the server!!! |
Funny, I don't remember that. Maybe a copy of that email too while you at it.
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| You can't claim cheating when all it was was a great commander doing his homework on MOB. They KNEW what your plans were. |
No, it was cheating but we have addressed that point as well. Not to mention the OGL admin who spectated the match also felt that they were cheating. If you missed that email, here's the link: http://www.mobclan.com/email.htm
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| I don't know anything about Silver, so I can't help you there. |
You have not been a help at all. Try a new crystal ball. Although I hear Ms. Cleo is back in business, maybe give her a call.
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| Now the word is that MOB players are going onto the 7th server impersonating 7th Rangers Holiday, DirtyHarry and Thor and asking other Rangers for the RCON password. Not cool, and close to illegal if you know the federal laws on server intrusion. |
I don't know where you get your "WORD" from but I would like to see some proof of this and don't preach legal issues to me. If anyone in MOB was ever caught doing this they would be kicked out of MOB immediately. No questions asked.
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| MOB for the first time couldn't use hacks, because they knew OGL admins would be there, and for the first time MOB got their butts kicked. Is this why you're claiming cheating? |
Why do you continue to talk out of your ass? We have asked that an admin spectate just about every 6vs6 match we have played.
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| And besides, your IP numbers are listed on theCheatPolice.com. Look them up! |
Some links would be nice showing this information.
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| What you should've done is stayed in OGL and went against them a 2nd time. Then when you were beaten just as badly, you would know that it wasn't cheating. Nobody likes a quitter. |
Yes, that sounds like a good idea. Stay in a league wherein the admin who spectates the match agrees that the other clan was cheating but cannot do anything about it. That makes a lot of sense.
Not only have we left, but we are in the process of forming the Anti-Cheat league with several other repsected clans so that we can have and ensure cheat free matches.
| QUOTE (Whatever @ Feb 24 2003, 01:50 PM) |
| Like it or not MOB is known throughout the MOHAA community as being hacked up. There are just too many people who have voiced this opinion. People who have caught your guys with anti-cheat software. MOB is listed on theCheatPolice.com for God's sake! |
If your going to post something like that.
You had better damn well back it up.
Lets' see a link
| QUOTE (OvErKiLL @ Feb 23 2003, 11:07 PM) |
| damn gomer beat me to it i was bringing it with me , guys i retract my saying you are good guys. bottom line who is number one in ogl and who quit as for =com= backing you guys , well that is no back up i'd like to have in my corner knowing about their priors. i've spent 3 hours reading this stuff , after trying to ignore it all but it is like this i may self never run from a fight , and if i'm right i stand up and make it all come to my side, you don't achieve those things from running away and if conclusive evidence had been there your nurse ratched mentioned there was NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! enjoy you cheese and wine fellows . GEEZ!!!!!!!!!! or CHEESE!!!!!!!!!! |
will i wouldnt brag about being #1 since you guys cheated to get it. i dont blame MOB from leaving ladder, since their maybe noway they could get that spot back since their honest and the 7th cheat. its hard to win when you have to beat hackers. mob will always be #1 in the mohaa community.
You're real funny guy. The fact still remains, MOB was used to a run-n-gun game with hacks up the ying/yang. Without the hacks you guys were nothing.
Your tactics didn't work and yet you continued to use the same tactics. Why did you do that? Do you have a real smart ass answer to that question too?
I noticed that not one of your whiners responded to going on the 7th's server and impersonating their people asking for the rcon password. Scumballs that you are I bet you'll continue to show no class at all and continue this behavior. When your IP address is captured the next time you do this expect a phone call.
You lost to a better team. Get over it.
You guys simply cannot perform without your hacks, and you can't accept the fact that you got beat.
CI has an immunity list. Did YOU make sure that got into the application?
By reading your posts all I can say is when a state commits public education someone should be held responsible.
Your tactics didn't work and yet you continued to use the same tactics. Why did you do that? Do you have a real smart ass answer to that question too?
I noticed that not one of your whiners responded to going on the 7th's server and impersonating their people asking for the rcon password. Scumballs that you are I bet you'll continue to show no class at all and continue this behavior. When your IP address is captured the next time you do this expect a phone call.
You lost to a better team. Get over it.
You guys simply cannot perform without your hacks, and you can't accept the fact that you got beat.
CI has an immunity list. Did YOU make sure that got into the application?
By reading your posts all I can say is when a state commits public education someone should be held responsible.
you must be the 7th rangers mascot. with the big I on your forehead for idiot
Your lack of coherent thought and proof amaze me. If you have any proof relating to MOB members, i would suggest that you show it. Any uneducated fiend can come on a forum and post their opinions. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. What has happened here is you have no intelligent response to proof and facts, so you move to personal attacks and wild accusations of MOB members. No member of this clan would stoop to such a level, we have servers of our own, so your comments deserved no response. If you have a reasonable, well thought out post, that boasts fact and not fiction, please feel free to post it. Otherwise shut the fuck up and go about your bussiness.
Kt
Kt
| QUOTE (Whatever @ Feb 24 2003, 06:21 PM) |
| You're real funny guy. The fact still remains, MOB was used to a run-n-gun game with hacks up the ying/yang. Without the hacks you guys were nothing. Your tactics didn't work and yet you continued to use the same tactics. Why did you do that? Do you have a real smart ass answer to that question too? I noticed that not one of your whiners responded to going on the 7th's server and impersonating their people asking for the rcon password. Scumballs that you are I bet you'll continue to show no class at all and continue this behavior. When your IP address is captured the next time you do this expect a phone call. You lost to a better team. Get over it. You guys simply cannot perform without your hacks, and you can't accept the fact that you got beat. CI has an immunity list. Did YOU make sure that got into the application? By reading your posts all I can say is when a state commits public education someone should be held responsible. |
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| The fact still remains, MOB was used to a run-n-gun game with hacks up the ying/yang. Without the hacks you guys were nothing. |
Just the opposite my friend. Most clans we play complain that we camp too much.
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I noticed that not one of your whiners responded to going on the 7th's server and impersonating their people asking for the rcon password. Scumballs that you are I bet you'll continue to show no class at all and continue this behavior. When your IP address is captured the next time you do this expect a phone call. |
Wrong again, you apparently have a hard time with reading comprehension. Maybe you missed it in my last reply to you:
I don't know where you get your "WORD" from but I would like to see some proof of this and don't preach legal issues to me. If anyone in MOB was ever caught doing this they would be kicked out of MOB immediately. No questions asked.
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| You lost to a better team. Get over it. |
No, we lost to a team who was suspected of cheating by the admins as well as a team where the player with the best score failed to send in a screen shot despite the admins requesting one from all players. All of MOB sent theirs.
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| You guys simply cannot perform without your hacks, and you can't accept the fact that you got beat. |
Already said and already responded to, see above post.
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| CI has an immunity list. Did YOU make sure that got into the application? |
Of course, that must be it.
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| By reading your posts all I can say is when a state commits public education someone should be held responsible. |
blah, blah, blah.
well that should be the end of this thread i think. kt hits it on the head...they have had 3 pages of this thread plus a few more on their site to back up what they claim. they cant do it. this thread and others can go on and on and on and on....but we all know the case presented is much stronger on this side of the fence.
Real~
I think his is trying to make it on the first team by kissing a little ass with the 7th.
Remember that guy on the football team that was a bit slower than everybody else but you let him on the team because he cheered everybody else on collected the musty jockstraps after the big game? Everybody felt sorry for him because they all thought he was tarded?
This is him.
The only OvErKiLL I have ever seen was part of a clan called -+STA-+OvErKiLL. I think the full name was Salad-Tossing All Stars.
hmmm...
Cypher
ps: And it's a flea market, not a yard sale.
I think his is trying to make it on the first team by kissing a little ass with the 7th.
Remember that guy on the football team that was a bit slower than everybody else but you let him on the team because he cheered everybody else on collected the musty jockstraps after the big game? Everybody felt sorry for him because they all thought he was tarded?
This is him.
The only OvErKiLL I have ever seen was part of a clan called -+STA-+OvErKiLL. I think the full name was Salad-Tossing All Stars.
hmmm...
Cypher
ps: And it's a flea market, not a yard sale.
I'v been gone for a while and i come back to find people trying to defend something that is compleatly blown out of the water and all the 7th people that say that mob ran away from OGL are ignorient fools. Deja Vo (oj simpson)the oly thing is that he got away but his life is ruined because of the law suit!!!!
Yard Sale....ROTFLMAO!!! Probably a Compaq or Packard Bell.....lol
| QUOTE (gen.gomer-pyle @ Feb 24 2003, 05:38 PM) |
| you must be the 7th rangers mascot. with the big I on your forehead for idiot |
gen.gomer-pyle
I'm curious, are you the same gen.gomer-pyle I help setup the
"message of the day" oh the ILAN forum"?
According to Caine, the top admin, you lost. Caine said there was no evidence that the 7th cheated. Get over it. You lost. I knew you guys were hacked up from the beginning (not all of you, but many), and the first time you couldn't use them look what happened. You got your asses handed to you, and now like the whining bunch of pussies that you are you're crying foul. Adn you all know who among you hacks like mfers.
Go ahead and run away like the cowards that you are. RealDeal, I hear you bitched up the very minute you went into their server that night. "They won't give me rcon." lol
I'm tired of this. You're boring me with your tears. Get over it and start to act like men. OGL said there was no foul. The official word is you lost fair and square.
Whatever Silver did you still lost without his scores. The 7th posted the same scores they usually do, and you guys didn't. That's a fact.
And all the smart ass whining you can muster won't change the fact that you lost to a better team, and you don't know how to handle it so you run.
Go ahead and run away like the cowards that you are. RealDeal, I hear you bitched up the very minute you went into their server that night. "They won't give me rcon." lol
I'm tired of this. You're boring me with your tears. Get over it and start to act like men. OGL said there was no foul. The official word is you lost fair and square.
Whatever Silver did you still lost without his scores. The 7th posted the same scores they usually do, and you guys didn't. That's a fact.
And all the smart ass whining you can muster won't change the fact that you lost to a better team, and you don't know how to handle it so you run.
can't you girls just kiss and make up ?
just kidding,
I for one am anxiously waiting the next great multiplayer game as I think medal of honor is definately showing age, and with little or no support from EA, this is what this great game is comming to. I just wish that the next great multiplayer fps would hurry up and get here cause UT2003 isn't it.
just my 2 cents worth
AOBTC
just kidding,
I for one am anxiously waiting the next great multiplayer game as I think medal of honor is definately showing age, and with little or no support from EA, this is what this great game is comming to. I just wish that the next great multiplayer fps would hurry up and get here cause UT2003 isn't it.
just my 2 cents worth
AOBTC
| QUOTE (Whatever @ Feb 25 2003, 06:44 AM) |
| According to Caine, the top admin, you lost. Caine said there was no evidence that the 7th cheated. Get over it. You lost. I knew you guys were hacked up from the beginning (not all of you, but many), and the first time you couldn't use them look what happened. You got your asses handed to you, and now like the whining bunch of pussies that you are you're crying foul. Adn you all know who among you hacks like mfers. Go ahead and run away like the cowards that you are. RealDeal, I hear you bitched up the very minute you went into their server that night. "They won't give me rcon." lol I'm tired of this. You're boring me with your tears. Get over it and start to act like men. OGL said there was no foul. The official word is you lost fair and square. Whatever Silver did you still lost without his scores. The 7th posted the same scores they usually do, and you guys didn't. That's a fact. And all the smart ass whining you can muster won't change the fact that you lost to a better team, and you don't know how to handle it so you run. |
Are you still here? Saying the same old things over and over and over again.....
This has all been responded to before. Your a 7th Ranger TEAM B reservist so you are really of no importance and all you do is repeat what other people in your clan say. Why not reply to some of my previous posts and put some links up to back-up your information. Stop trying to kiss up to scaf so you can get off of the reservist team. Until then, be gone bench warmer.
lol, you tell him real
You know I have to say, I have no problem getting beaten, I have been beaten by some of the best. But to get beaten because one or two of the opposing team is wearing a chameleon is demoralizing. The 7th is not clean and they know it, putting Silver on probation is the smoking gun. The problem is that Silver isn't the only one and until 7th is willing to clean their own house they really have no business telling anyone anything. I'm just a middle of the road player in a middle of the road clan so my opinion is of little consequence, but the 7th has gained a reputation for cheating and it is up the them to show a little maturity and change that rather than blaming everyone else.
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