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futureman
has there been a change to the axis MG?
i can be an allie and do just fine, but when i switch to the axis, using the MG, it is if the gun doesnt even work.

today for instance, i was playing in your fine server as an axis soldier, and a few times i could fire into the back of someones upper torso or head and they could actually feel the shot, turn around, and shoot me dead.

have you not noticed the difference in scores among the average player from the allie to the axis? it is a noticable difference. the last few days, when i have played, the axis rarely have more than 3 players with positive kills while the allies has at a minimum, half.

it is just strange how different one team can be to the other.
as an allie, i can bet on having a ratio of about 2 to 1 most of the time.
lately, as axis, i am lucky to be in the positive.

i have visited other servers to see if it is a MOHAA wide condition and it is not.
it is only on MOB.

can u please tell me the reason?

ps, i know that by posting this, i open myself up to smartass comments, but i am sincerely seeking a response to the reason the axis MG has lost a bit of its power.

thanks a lot.
Panzer
Could be lag or latency issues on your end, seeming like your missing when your really not.
futureman
how is it corrected?
Druid
The only difference between the Allied and Axis MG is you run a little slower with the BAR. Out side of the run speed they have the exact same settings.
Himmler
Actually,from what I know the BAR is more powerfull than the STG.Bar is slower,but on Goodfellas with the Modified Realism its a super weapon......Dwarfs the STG........Both are not accurate etiher....You kind of get to return the favor if you use the Mauser with its rapid fire.....Which is a great weapon......FYI the Germans actually had stock piles of STG's on the front lines in WW II but choose to use the Mauser instead,because the STG's accuracy being so poor....Imagine if STG was very accurate and the German's used them instead of the Mauser.The World may have been a much different place then we know it today........
Druid
Just like the name BAR, It unlike most manchine guns was actually a true automatic rifle and used a 30-06 rifle round. While the STG44 used a snub-nosed 7.92mm round.
One thing I've always found funny, it when people complain the BAR fires to fast because they are use to the CKR setting. CKR is based on the M1918A1, which had two fire modes semi-auto and slow auto ( 300rps ). A full year before the USA entered WWII, we began producing the M1918A2. The A2 model did away with the semi-auto and replaced it with 2 fully automatic modes, slow at 300rps like the CKR version and a fast mode which fired 550-600rps.
Himmler
I maybe wrong Druid,but the CKR realism is quite a bit off on the way these weapons performed....I think I may still have the comparison with the real spec's on the weapons & CKR realism.What the heck its a video game anyways,get as close to it as we can.....
Blakjak
Don't knock the Thompson with Druid's mod. It's my favorite on Stali because of speed. BAR is great on DV but its too slow (walk pace) in tight areas.
Bargod
You know, it's funny. I said somewhere in another thread that after having one night where I had a 20 kill spree, the next night I was coming up behind people and missing with the Axis MG. At first I thought there was something off with the gun, but then I just assumed I was having an extra bad nite. I also noticed this last nite, but only during one map. I don't know if it's me or some kind of flaw, but if nothing else, it's gotten me to use the rifle more often, so I'm getting better with that.
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Bargod,
Druid put rubber bullets in your MG....but just you...so we could all have a good laugh. Every 6th bullet is real tho...so sometimes you'll get lucky tongue.gif
futureman
axis MG is back to normal for me.
maybe i was just trippin.
sorry craig.
Kirby
The first STG came out in 1943 I read. When hitler was approached about the production of this weapon he rejected it. But it was still produced behind his back because they knew its value. The name of the weapon was changed and shown to Hitler and German soldiers were eager to get ahold of this weapon on the Russian front where it was very effective. Once Hitler seen the final result and its effect he approved mass production.Like this weapon, the V1, V2 (Rockets) and first Jet produced by Germany, it came into production too late into the war. Germany was battling on two major fronts, the Italians switched sides with Allies moving through Sicily & Anzio upwards. And the Luftwaffe (airforce) was brought in closer to home to protect its factorys from British and American bombers, after it depleted its air strength in the Battle of Britain. When the Allies landed at D-Day, all but 2 german fighters where there to great them. Because of the weather and by luck, most of the German top commanders (Including Rommel) were not at the defense beach lines. Calis the closest port to England, was set up to look like the major attack port into France. British planes dropped flachets, a sort of tinfoil made strips prior to the real assault beaches to fool the Germans into thinking a attack was coming higher up (Calis - sorry spell may be off) Anyway the tinfoil strips would appear on radar as indicating a great deal of planes. Back to the STG, at the end of the war, the Russians caught the weapon, made some changes to it, and you have one of the best weapons ever made, the AK47 smile.gif This is breif history lesson hehe.
Druid
QUOTE (Himmler @ Apr 17 2004, 02:58 PM)
I maybe wrong Druid,but the CKR realism is quite a bit off on the way these weapons performed....I think I may still have the comparison with the real spec's on the weapons & CKR realism.What the heck its a video game anyways,get as close to it as we can.....

If you still have this email me a copy
thedruid@mobclan.com
futureman
man, either im trippin or have a conscience that will only allow one of the teams win for me.

as of today, my axis man kicks total butt while my allied soldier is a shooting dummy.

tis a strange string of incidence.
Epacy
QUOTE (hotpocket holley @ Apr 18 2004, 08:55 PM)
man, either im trippin or have a conscience that will only allow one of the teams win for me.

as of today, my axis man kicks total butt while my allied soldier is a shooting dummy.

tis a strange string of incidence.

sounds like operator error....
Bargod
I thought I saw my bullets bouncing around. Thanks for letting me in on the joke Wargasm. It is kinda funny afterall. I think someone put double sided tape on my grenades as well.
Ahhh, ya gotta love hazing.
Silver
another stupid question...i took a used a BAR on a american the other night and i know i put 3 clips in him no way this guy should not have lived. he truned and shot me with his rifle. this has happened more then once i can remember and have always thought it to be me. it there somthing out there the people have that van do this. he wasnt on miss? huh.gif just being courius
Soul Assassins
i always figured the bar was more powerful, but the stg had more rounds per clip as a way to even the guns up.
=[UADD]=Zero-Tolerance
I think all the guns are evened out like start with the rifles allied shots 8 shells in like a second but isn't all that powerfull and the kar only shoots one but has a kick ass puinch. The allied sniper is slower but packs more power as the Kar is fast and not as powerfull. The smg's don't knwo much bout them i never use then i think they all suck not enuff range on them. The BAR Is more acurate and a lil more powerfull as the STG is not accurate unless u shoot 1 or 2 bulits at a time but has more ammo and is bout as strong as the BAR. The shottie and Rockets are the same for both side. They both suck ass!
Himmler
Druid,I have to look,if not I'll have to ask my old clan leader Ernst.He still has it.I think Doc has it to...It was very interesting.Anyways,I'm in Holland right now,I do it in 2 weeks when I get back.Peace man.....
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I think all the guns are evened out like start with the rifles allied shots 8 shells in like a second but isn't all that powerfull and the kar only shoots one but has a kick ass puinch.

Not sure which mod ur playing...but in Druids mod the KAR seems to shoot just as fast if not faster then the Allied rifle....and from what I am seeing...more and more guys are using the rifle cause they have the"one hit wonder" effect to them....meaning you can hit a guy in the little toe or the pinky finger and kill them LOL. An example would be such as the other night I was playing with an axis sniper rifle...I walked right up behing a guy and shot him point blank in the neck....saw the puff of smoke...now I dunno what everyone else thinks....but that shot to the neck shoulda killed that guy right now....instead...he didnt die...turned around and shot me once with an allied rifle "in the arm" and killed me ....go figure. Personally, I think the rifles on either side are the most deadliest out of all weapons .
Also...does anyone find it harder to hit a guy with a rifle when you have a STG or a BAR in a close firefight? Its like the guy with the rifle is super NEO and can bend away from your bullets....but you manage to paint a nice profile of him on the wall behind him LOL.
Bargod
I actually had this happen to me today on French Village. Came up on a guy from behind with 2 bullets left in my BAR and shot point blank. He turned around with his rifle and killed me. WTF? I shot the bastid point blank! I shoulda bashed him. LOL
Oppression
barog, next time you are behind someone, instead of just putting 2 bullets into them, just empty your clip into them... that usually will do the job.
JP
bashing is better
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