A truth not THE truth

IT LIKE ARGUING WITH MOB U MIGHT AS WELL BE TALKING TO A BRICK WALL, although if you did that the responses may be more intellegent

I guess intelligence would include spelling?

Perhaps I missed it. What part of the repeated personal attacks is the truth? The yellow part of screaming that someone is an idiot.

Reputations in tact, oh yea. Hamma knows quite well that a retraction on page 4 isn't the same as a false claim on page 1. But whatever.

I am being personally attacked. Where have I called someone an idiot in this arguement. Where have I called anyone a liar or anything else.

miked

wow, who gives a shit about spelling, it makes absolutely no difference

I answered this via PM.

miked

I think I am going to open a beer now.......just a sec......

If you are going to question a groups or a persons intelligence, you could at least spell the word correctly.

LAWL

Call Of Duty: Rated T for Teen

LAWL

Who wants to run a quick 5 miles with me?

LAWL

T for Teen




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Flat is whack with a baby in his sac
Can't go thru doors from all the snacks

Maybe we could start a new little forum for just bss guys. In this forum we could put all the threads where "res kept bss guys out of mob". What you will actually see is res guys supporting them. And then you will see Silver and DG insane posts which made peope not want to agree with them.
This could probably be arranged.

As a matter of fact, you could see where a member off HHS was agreed to be brought up to full MOB (recommended by a res member) only the thread was hijacked by Silver and DG throwing insults and bs and in the end nobody even remembered to bring in the reg the topic was started for. That would truly be awesome!

I just liked when Crazy Canuck said "we've always supported HHS..."

Does that mean the "Good Job Guys!" after we win?

Or

The changing of casino to mixed maps to help us out when rumors of us leaving came up?

Also we've seen it said that HHS is just a team for us to fool around with and it never has any chance of actually going anywhere.


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Oh a full bowl but no spoon
its about to get soggy real soon
have no fear flat is here!
he'll finish it up like it's beer!

You are right. It was shitty of Druid to set up a practice/match server for HHS to play on. What an ass! And helping you guys when you had issues with it? That was as unsupportive as could be.

As for changing Cassino, once again BSS thinks too much of themselves. There had been talk of changing Cassino hundreds of times. Generally we kept it because we had a lot of regs that liked to play there (how unsupportive of us). We ended up changing it because nobody played on it anymore.
However, I did want to change it to mixed maps to help you guys out. I pointed out that you guys were in the practice server practicing all the time. Who knows what could have happened. Oh well. We were too busy being unsupportive.

Yes it's nice to have a server to practice/play on. But you make it seem like there was extreme diffulculty in setting up? I mean thanks for doing it but don't stress dragging and dropping files.

Over a 100 times huh? Why now.

P.S. Druid owns the internet and it prolly took him 3 seconds. And no im not calling you Al Gore!

Want to add.
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jingle jangle flats entangled
in what you ask?
his immense body hair!
shaving for him is an arduous task
so flat just dont care.

from a Calvin and Hobbes strip...
To be said in a zombie manner: "no will of my own...no will of my own".

I know a whole lot now about who said what and what was said where. I have pieced it together from what Father Silver (our almighty cult leader) has told me and from what Druid, Hamma, and the Bargeezy have shown me. I know the story, I know you stood up for me. You think everyone left because of that? Do you think I am incapable of an informed decision?

Take Brother Oh You for an example (sorry). I think lipton said something like: "Hey oh you, we are starting a new clan". Oh You was like, "I'm game". Then we spent about 10 minutes saying "no no, you don't have to come", "its cool man, we were just saying". He said "what's the big deal, I have no loyalties either way."
The point here is that a lot of us don't feel the same loyalties to a "clan" as others do. I want to play with the people I want to play with. I also want to compete at times. I have no intention of burning bridges. If you guys want them gone, then I have no reservations in torching them.

I know Father Silver's viewpoint is skewed, and so is all of yours. I've told Druid thank you and let him know how happy we were to have him help us (in PM, but I won't post that here, huh?). Bargod, don't pull that on us, I've made certain everyone who has helped us knows that we appreciate the help.


I have told you guys over and over my reasons for leaving. All you can read into was that Father Silver brainwashed us. Now, don't read too far into everything, or you might hit your head on the computer screen.
"No will of my own...no will of my own"

Brother Choth

Now i'm weary. This matter will give me somthing to sleep on. Relax one's guard

I saw that stealth ship from Norway's Navy, very cool.

Yes, it's nice. I have seen it when i was working in a avalanche. The ship was use their headlights to assist us from the sea.

8 pages? Eight pages?! What the...

I'm so confused.

Do it, copy the entire threads from MOB private to a place where they can be read. Let people see everything and then come to their own conclusions. We all know that you can do it if your want to. But don't make it BsS only, add in Regs as well. But please post all of it everything that everyone had to say on the matters.

Throw in the other threads as well. Let's see the MM banning thread. Let's see the TBN and Rommel up for MOB threads. Let's see them all.

miked

Cudamom is home from work!!!

Some facts that are relevant to this post: 1- Crazy Canadian is DJ's friend from across the street who was team killing. He is no longer allowed on any of our computers!! DJ's lesson- his friend using our computer while gaming- DJ is responsibe for his actions. All he had to do was tell him to go home, but he didn't and now his friend is banned from all our computers.

2. DJ left and wanted to join BsS with his friends- I had no problem, I just expected respect that he failed to adhere to....I don't play on there servers and do not bother them in vent and have the same expectations of him. If he played on our servers he was required to play fair and respect all...he broke the rules..he pays the price.

3. Lip- the information and screen shots I have show you egging him on, maybe you were not doing what he was, but a the same time don't think I am clueless to what's going on.

4. Mormon Marine was playing and maybe my information was wrong..but he too was disrupting servers.

5. I don't care if you're #1 or # 10 on kills if you're causing negativity on other people's play- you're in the wrong. So if you Lip and DJ want to make video's make them on your server..how about during your match.

6. When someone has to ask you to leave the server...after they are experienced with gaming and clans they already know why.

Why I posted here...I will deal with my son's actions in front of the people that he has brought problems too. My son is a good kid...but sometimes he's not..and actions speak louder than words. He has admitted that you were trying to make a flick and that he was acting like a money...(with granades)...he realizes that he was out of line and was disrespectful.

Until further notice he is not allowed on any MOB server...until the Cudadad and I decide...if ever. Dave and I enjoy gaming, especially with our friends in MOB and Regs. Yes, I did wake Cudadad at 5:45 am and a large note was left on the table - DJ IS GROUNDED FROM COMPUTER UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE LOVE MOM!!

Respect is a two way streak, his actions reflect that he has disrespected me and Dave by treating our friends and the servers I play on a such. You know when the Cudadad posts...he's not a happy camper.

If there are any future problems....which there should not be- do not hesitate to contact Cudadad or Cudamom.

Thank you all for your feedback... Our son realizes he was wrong and said to say "SORRY TO ALL",

Now for a glass of wine....

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This will be my last post as I'm going to go play Barb & have some fun.
You Girls can keep arguing if you want to.

1st off
Miked condemns Hamma posting a private message.
Hey thats fine, you can consider that however you want.
My only question for you is if you think thats bad, Hamma posting a Private message that was sent to him.
Than what do you think of Silver posting 20+ pages of private forum messages.
Considering many of the topics Silver just posted screenshots of were from a forum he didn't even have access to. That is until he hyjacked Dolphine's MOD account, then changed the access on that account to go fishing in a forum he had not right or reason to be in.
Here is how I would compare the two.
Hamma posting something someone told him in a private message would be akin to him relaying what somone told him privately on the phone.
While what silver has done would be more akin to him eavesdropping on a phone line he had no right to be listining to in the 1st place, then posting the tape of it in a pathetic attemtp to stir up shit.

If you think Hamma is so wrong that you're going to condemn him, then I expect you to say at tleast as huch about what Silver just did. Or does your disapproval only apply to non-BsS members.
If so, than you sir are a hypocrite.
No bigger of a hypocrite than Silver himself.
This isn't the 1st time an ex MOB member has posted screenshots of private post in a childish attemtp to cause problems. Something I do find very funny is the when it happend last time Silver condemned the guy who did it.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...indpost&p=66639

I guess when Silver told Diesel it wasn't cool to go posting screenshots from private messages, that same thing doesn't apply to Silver.
Am I really the only one who thinks that's a good example of a hypocrite?
I doubt it.


Lastly,
Seeing as how so much this controversy now revolves around my statements about the HHS team.
Here is my reply to one of the HHS players when he contacted me about it.

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"Sorry for the late reply but was at work. Anyway yours is exactly why private post should stay private, because of misunderstanding like this.
Here is exactly what I said when it came to the HHS team. The same thing goes for the idea of a MOB TDM team. I don't think we are even close to doing it. In my opinion the Hotel Hot stuff team is a goof strictly for fun. The are ill prepared for the 2v2 Composite Rifles Only Ladder they are on. They don't regularly play any of the 12 maps making up the map rotation for the ladder, nor do they normally play the two game types ( ctf & SD ).
That would sound bad, when you don't know what I'm talking about or the person who told you didn't put it in perspective.
I've said the same exact thing about the MOB BAS team, when they weren't making normal practices.
I said the same thing for a year & a half to MOB's MOHAA team when they should of dominated the ladder but ended up losing 35% of their matches because they only showed up. No practices, no teamwork, no strategy.
In the 4 years I've been here, I've only played in 3 MOHAA matches. Even then it was only as a last minute fill in. During that whole time, even though I don't play in matches I've been the biggest supporter for those who do. I've supported every team with my time, so they can play their matches & hopefully have fun. I'll give you an example, During our days in mohaa, half the matches would end up in disputes. I was the one who always took care of them. In fact I ended up helping several other teams, if their match ended up in dispute because another team tried to turn a win in a forfeit on some stupid techicality. I was the one people came to. I did the exact same thing not to long ago when TWL mistaken forced teams to use a bad Punkbuster config that caused nothing but problems. I spent 5-6 hours the next day after the match, going though server logs, going through player demos, in discussions with the ladder admins.
All of that to prove MOB shouldn't have to take a forfeit like the other team tried to force on us. BTW MOB won the dispute. You know why I've always done that, so the players wouldn't have to get bogged down in the bullshit. I wanted the people doing this to be able to focus on the match and have fun and I would take care of the rest. So please don't tell me I didn't support your team. I supported EVERY team. Barged told me one of your complaints was you guys use to help Res in practices but the favor was never returned. Thats totally unfair and here is why. When the BAS team needed help with a practice, they posted asking for help. I don't think BsS or HHS ever posted asking to setup a scrim to practice for a match. If you had, you would of found more than enough people to help you out. All you had to do was ask, don't blame everybody else because you or BsS never asked.
From things that have been said, it's very obvious people picked what to share with people. What really frustrates me the worse is the people caught up in this bullshit. Here's a few things from that same topic, I bet no one bothered to tell you. All of this started in a topic about recruiting Lipton, which by the way wasn't even started by Silver but by Undead. Silver quickly high jacked the topic requesting that in stead of bringing Lipton in, all the people in BsS be made MOB. This pissed several people off because we had just decided a couple of weeks prior to limit recruit topic to individuals. Silver single handedly turned a simple post about recruiting Lipton into a 5 page flame war. If it wasn't for Silver pissing everyone off,and the topic getting turned into another flame war. Lipton would of already been in MOB, as I was the only one who questioned him joining. In fact, Hamma who Silver claimed was so against the BsS team and the people on it, even offered to donate extra money to cover any required donations if that was all that was keeping Lipton out. http://mobclan.com/druid/bss/hamma.jpg As people passed on to you my remarks concerning the HHS team. I willing to bet no one passed this on to you, even though it was in the exact same topic on the same day I said what I did about HHS I quoted above. http://mobclan.com/druid/bss/choth.jpg Wow ain't I the ass? As for the time when you could access the MOB forums. I knew you didn't go snooping nor did I think you had. You know why, because your not that type of person. Which makes you the exact opposite of Silver. He went out of his way to sign on to DG account. Jack with her access to enable the account to view the other teams forums. Then when on a hunting expedition Which is only 1 of the 100 reasons why everyone was glad to see him leave. Most of MOB had been wanting to call a vote to remove him for months prior to him actually leaving. I'm the one who keep talking them out of it, much to my current regret. If I wouldn't have talked them out of it, we ( meaning everyone ) wouldn't be in this current mess. Anyhoo Best of luck to you. Just don't expect me to wish good luck to BsS while silvers on the team. Nothing personal against you. "

So you were referring to Saturday, not Friday?

miked

you did trooper ! because you dont do what cuda and cuda mom did ! your kid has been a problem before ,during and after he was in mob.i took my kid to a show today and simply cannot believe this thread is now 6 pgs of bullshit with bss AGAIN!

the original post was an apologie from cuda mom for her sons disrespect-will there be a problem when he plays here in the future -hell no! bottom line is this-mormon marine is banned! period,end of story.so your teaching him its ok to break the rules and it was blatant .

the poor me (bss) crap is over ,the votes for your ban(as a whole ) are GROWING .this isnt about bss its about MORMONMARINE and hes f***king banned! to miked and every bss player-go back and reread the friigin 1st post and then think about how many pages this has gone! thats drama,from you!

please to mob and to regs-please stop responding to this posts(or any from bss).lets not add to the arguement-let them go home! i know ,hey can make a bipolar rant post 2768 pgs long like the flashgirl post .

Druid,

I have to respect the fact that you are trying to be consistent in this. I also respect the fact that you admit what you said about HHS.

But since we are off topic anyway, why doesn't someone just post the entire threads, then we can all see what happened, who said what and why.

Personally, I think that Hamma is a bully. Now I have made an attack. His first post was bullying and it continued. It seems by saying that Lipton was egging Cudakid on means that Cudamom was referring to yesterday (Saturday) and not Friday since we have determined that Lipton was not on the Stock Base server on Friday.

To answer your question though, I am always for openess over secrecy. I understand that there can be reasons for private conversations, but the first person who posted private conversations here was Hamma. As for what Silver did or did not, he is an adult able to deal with things on his own. Lipton, stone cold COD killer that he is, is not an adult and did not deserve the attacks and threats from Hamma. It was those attacks that got me involved.

miked




That began my involvement Undead. Lipton was called a liar, and told he should be banned. Now maybe that's not an attack as Hamma says in another of his posts, but it sounds like one to me.

miked

to haray's post about running five miles, TAKE OH YOU !

to hamma still saying i "lied openly" OBVIOUSLY i did not lie, because you had the dates, and servers, etc fucked up. that sir, was not my fault. i was correct.

not that you all care, but for the people i still liked and respected in MOB, its all gone. honestly, if i never get on the MOB vent or servers anymore, its not the end of the world.

PS - we (hotel hot stuff rifle squad) and father cult leader silver were actually making semi-bets on who and when would be the first person to say " GOOD JOB IN BEATING PLAYERS THAT NEVER PLAY THIS GAMETYPE!" thanks for letting me win that bet !

i don't know why my name keeps being brought up in this thread, since i did nothing & obvious i should not have ever been in this thread.

cudamom, i realize it wasn't accurate information, but i would still appreciate an apology.



and DAMN, too bad i was off having a life today and didn't see all the moaning in groaning of another day in the MOB forums



hasta luego!

sincerely,

-Lip

This thread is not about the past....the old days are gone....it's about a few who have disrupted our servers and one that has brought embarrassment to Dave and I. My son was sitting next to me and made sure that all know that he said he was sorry for his actions.

Pretty stand up for a 14yr old.

Let's not make this bigger than it is. But at the end of the day..when he wanted me to post "Sorry for causing a problem and that it won't happen again".. At the end of the day..yes he is part of BsS clan, but first and foremost he is my son. (Bored to death- unable to game with his friends).

Just so you know miked it was Friday night and Saturday during the day. Friday was on our stock maps and Saturday was on Barb. This behaviour is uncalled for on our servers and will not be tolerated by the cudaparents. He has been made aware of the future consequence...which are not nice!!



Lip,

Sorry from the other mother if you were not involved....but my information was that you were encouraging him...so if you were not...I am sorry. Only you and the kid know the truth and I will leave it at that. You know that I always liked you and know that you are a great friend to the kid. I know my son was wrong and he stepped up to the plate. If you were not involved..sorry for bringing your name in..it was due to possible misinformation.

Mom #2!!!!!

thank you

i would just like to say there are no hard feelings towards you cudakid, i was a kid once and did way, way sillier things that caused way more problems! Look forward to gaming with you again and to cuda mom and dad you both have my utmost respect!

Lawl, oh you is fat.

you're mean.

I think we should close this thread now...we only have room for one Flashgirl thread.... [attachmentid=3850

And it is only fitting that Cuda Mom should have the last word.

The thread is now closed.

Old Man Mike