I cannont believe how disappointed I am in all of you for coming into our servers yesterday and disrupting the game play of other! What has anyone here done to you- absolutely nothing. If you think that this type of behaviour will be tolerated, you are absolutely wrong!! I think you owe all of us here an apology. This behaviour is childish and very disrespectful.

I will deal with the cuda kid's behavior, but if for an instance you think think will not come back to haunt you, you are absolutely wrong. If you all think coming on here and causing problems will not reflect badly on BsS...you are wrong again!

Talk about disappointment. Thanks guys for ruining the server for a bunch of people just trying to enjoy there game.

Cudamom

Gentlemen ( what an understatement )

As you know Cudamom usually does the posts here as I am not an active poster, BUT when I get awaken at 545am in the morning to be advised the Kid was disruptive and not showing respect then I must post.

The kid is currently grounded from the computer and as you all know we are cops. How do cops get information? We use informants, witnesses who care to be involved, etc etc.

So I ask each of you if this happens again do the same and a let us know about the disappointing behaviour of our and your KID.

I will make this right for all of those affected.

CudaDad

Thank you CudaMom & CudaDad.

You two are simply the best!! I vote we name you honorary Mom & Dad of us all!

do we need to say anymore?

i don't know what information you recieved, kid was bored, yes, he put 2 tanks in his own mine field and thought it was funny, yes. he was told to stop, so he and i both got zook's and blew them up. that was it !



he started shooting off all of his ammo because he and i were trying to film a 3 second video of him being a monkey chasing a grenade, if that was disruptive to any of you then get over it !

i, cudamom didn't do a thing. i played the round all the way through AND WON THE MATCH FOR ALLIES (with the top score need i remind you, of the entire game!) cudakid and i blew up ALL THREE AXIS BASES. he fooled around for 3 minutes tops ! this is completely outrageous.

sorry you got get over-exaggerated, misinformation cudafamily. don't ground kid, he seriously didn't do anything.



my lord.

DRAMA CONTINUES!



oh, PS - how did you come up with marine in all of this?! he wasn't on all day he played a little with us yesterday BUT ONLY ON OUR PRIVATE SERVER.



keep him out of it

Wow.....perhaps you cops should get your informants straightened out. Rough 'em up, like on tv, and then get your $20.00 back. LMAO!! (Did she really wake you up at 5:45 just to tell you that? LOL)

hey guys This is MormonMarine..my posting permisions have been removed and trooper said i could say something. First i am banned from {MOB} servers there is no way i could have been in there. Second i need to be alble to post when stuff like this happens. And last i learned my lesson from the last time.

MormonMarine

are you SUURE about that marine? are you sure you havent been playing on our servers the last few days? all the crap was dying down but you guys gotta keep fucking around,on our servers.you keep complaining of drama but how many times have we been to your servers messing around? how about your forums? has mob posted one arguement in your forums? no,none. thats because the drama ends up here from somwhere else! things have been veeeery laid back and actually alot of fun here lately and here we are again?!!

to all bss-its our house,play by the rules or go play at csa or ax or something because i know they wont tolerate this crap!

why am i even reading this shit again!

Lipton,

You have just sealed your fate with MOB. We will actively pursue your complete ban from our servers and our forums. You have come on here and made bald-faced lies while denigrating the word of some of our most respected members - Cross of Iron and Crazy Canuck.

We have server logs. We know who plays on our servers. We know MM is spoofing as {COW}GotMilk and we know you know that. You were playing as Crazy Canadian. Here are the stats of one of the rounds you played. Despite your boasting, it shows you finished with 0 kills, 1 death and 1 suicide.

Take your falsehoods elsewhere. We are finished with all of this.

Let me get this right yall got bored and decide to place tank in mine field and film a 3min film of yall bring an ass. Can't yall do that shit on your own server? Anymore shit of this in our server or Forums Will get yall whole clan ban from the server and Forums consider this the last warning! We'll will extend the Vent ban a little longer until Everything is quit down, Until then keep the horse playing in your server and forums.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! i've never played under anything that doesn't have LIPTON in it ! even on original COD ! and how did i do anything against CC or Cross? they are two of my favorite players in MOB !

UNDEAD,

He was not involved. Lipton says he wasn't involved, cudakid says he wasn't involved, MormonMarine says he wasn't involved. Do we need confirmation from the Pope?

When cuda wants to do his monkey thing, I find it funny. Sometimes his timing might be better. But so what? I especially find it amusing that after all of the supposed drama, cuda and lipton took down all three enemy bases and lipton had top score. How many times has someone spent an entire game practicing a particular shot on Barb, or how about using a sniper rifle and not trying to blow up bases? It's the same thing, The difference is that they got over it and went on to win the game for their team. Heck its not even a they, Lipton was watching it an making a movie, not doing ANYTHING wrong.

I heard about this last night on vent and in my opinion either these kids are world class liars or someone is exaggerating the situation. Personally, I vote for the exaggeration.

He goofed off. He didn't insult anyone, he didn't team kill, he just goofed off for a little while. Then, they went on to work as a team and win the game.

As for Drama, since when is defending oneself DRAMA. Marine was not INVOLVED. No one from BsS started this topic. I can understand CudaMom's being upset, but this topic could have been posted on BsS and answered there.

And as for rules, if its not against the rules to practice shots on public servers or to do nothing but snipe, why is this different? Was it good judgement. no. Was it smart, no. But the question is was it wrong?

miked

Prove those stats are Lipton's. Have Druid check the logs. He can determine by GUID the veracity one way or another.

If it's true, ban him. If it's not, you apologize publically to him for making false accusations and jumping to incorrect conclusions. Whoa, deja vu of Jason Blair.

miked

DONT WORRY MIKED WE HAVE PROOF! {cow} milk. my last post on this you guys shoud make it yours as well.

according to the stats at that time, and about 2 hours before that time, the only server i was on was OURS. we practice for literally 4-5 hours BEFORE the rifles match last night ! i was NOT on at that time, marine was gone at that time with his family, HENCE WHY HE DIDN'T PLAY. he was abscent the whole evening. i'm sorry fella's, i was not crazy canadian. i was not in that server at that time, and i still have no idea why that merits a ban for me?!



oh...PS-
i check my own username with Lipton, and the alias list it would have for all the names i played under on your servers. the only two are my >BsS< L 1 p >> ton! and >BsS< L 1 p - ton ! ones.

Proof of what????

That Lipton was on our practice server at the time Hamma accuses him of smurfing? The date says 9.29.2006 20:31.

Lipton was on the practice server starting at 19:30. MormonMarine was out with his dad at that time. Which is why he didn't play in the match.

Cudakid and Lipton say that Marine wasn't on the server with them. I believe them.

miked

Lipton was on our servers all day as was cuda and marine. And i litrally mean all day, we played through different servers and started practicing 4 hours before the match started, we have the logs to prove it so whatever bs information you have been giving ur members needs to end, thank you

PS Cuda and Cuda mom please dont ground Cuda kid he did nothign wrong and please make sure u have accurate information before u wake people up at 545 over nothing

Wow, I didn't realize everyone was keeping such close tabs on us. Cudamom, trust me in saying that your kid behaves himself and him acting up was most likely blown out of proportion. I spoke to them both, and I certainly believe them.


I am tired of people like Undead trying to pass off everything as OUR fault. If lipton and cuda did this when they were in MOB, which we likely have before. I would expect that the cuda parents would have never found out. If cuda had done this in another clans server, I expect they wouldn't have cared. The fact that it was on a MOB server is what makes it a big deal. So if you say their is no drama on your end, then why are you all so quick to jump on our mistakes, eyeing us so closely with a cocked eyebrow? Funny how your apathy is strangely disguised as snooping. There is your bold face lying.

If you want to ban lipton. Certainly you'll have to ban me too. We'll find other servers, and I'll feel just dandy knowing that I left such a hypocritical organization (if you ban him, that is).

I'm not even part of this anymore but since my name was brought into it, I'll give you my take on it.
I don't know if the rest of the BsS guys are laughing about this or honestly don't know the truth.
Anyway here is the truth of it.

hey guys This is MormonMarine..my posting permisions have been removed and trooper said i could say something. First i am banned from {MOB} servers there is no way i could have been in there. Second i need to be able to post when stuff like this happens. And last i learned my lesson from the last time.
MormonMarine
Please don't give me this shit.
"Oh it couldn't be poor little me because I'm already banned "
You know as well as I do that you can pick up a copy of COD:UO dirt cheap, which is obviously what you did. Or should I say Trooper did for you.
The proof was only 95% because it was based not on the PB GUID but the COD:UO GUID which there was a small chance of someone else having the same one.
You want to know whats funny little boy.
Luckily for MOB you took away all doubt when you posted claiming it wasn't you.
From the PB log
[09.29.2006 15:27:58] New Connection (slot #7) 24.195.214.57:28960 [?] "^1{CoW}^^0Got^1 Milk?" (seq 16524998)
IP you just posted from when you claimed it wasn't you.
24.195.214.57
There is a lesson here for you.
You should of kept your trap shut.

Now for everyone in BsS who came in here to defend marine.
The question is, did you know he was lying & not care?
For that matter, now that you do know he was lying, do you care?


Miked

UNDEAD,
He was not involved. Lipton says he wasn't involved, cudakid says he wasn't involved, MormonMarine says he wasn't involved. Do we need confirmation from the Pope?
I'm not the Pope but you asked me to look into it.
Only question now is if you are going to take my word for it.



As for Lipton being CrazyCanadian, he wasn't.
If he was, that means he was playing from Cuda's house which I don't think is the case.
Although CudaKid & CrazyCanadian had different GUID's they were playing from the same IP.
I assume a friend of CudaKid's

With that said, Lipton your not doing yourself or anyone else any good when you make stupid statements like this.
my lord.
DRAMA CONTINUES!
oh, PS - how did you come up with marine in all of this?! he wasn't on all day he played a little with us yesterday BUT ONLY ON OUR PRIVATE SERVER.
keep him out of it
Don't come here complaining about how the drama continues, when it people in your own damn clan causing it. Also, I have a very hard time believing you dind't know {CoW}GotMilk? was mormonmarine since he's been playing on your server for weeks using that name.

Lastly, don't put to much emphasis on the time stamp of the stats. They can easily be off by hours.
The time in the VSP stats are based on nothing more than the time the server starts and then adds 35 minutes for every round played. The only way the time would be correct throughout the day is if every round went the full 35 minutes.

you dont care about bss but u take the time to watch our server (for weeks apparently) to see what names we are playing under. This is exactly what u did to Marine you twist information in you favor start drama over it and yes you started it not us, we simply came to defend ourselves and yes i know this line will be highlighted in pretty yellow and you'll analize the shit out of it and look to see how u can make us the bad guys. Lets keep in mind its a god damn game not the end of the world and that goes to everyone Bss and mob. When a (good) kid gets grounded for fooling around and having a bit of fun without disrespecting anyone or doing anything wrond we all have to take a good long look at ourselves

OWNED AGAIN LOLOLOLOL!!!



P.s and Miked dont try to be a smart ass here beacause you are just a... simply idiot

"You have just sealed your fate with MOB. We will actively pursue your complete ban from our servers and our forums. You have come on here and made bald-faced lies while denigrating the word of some of our most respected members - Cross of Iron and Crazy Canuck".


"Take your falsehoods elsewhere. "

I think this applies to a few other ex- mob members.

HEY GEREAU!!!

Massive shooting in Lexington Park last week... yipeee....

I am not chiming in on the argument here sorry, just saw your name and wanted to tell you about the incedent.

I believe part of the confusion here is in part my fault so i will try and set it straight. the other day on stock 3 players joined as cross, myself and somehelp were on stock. BsSCudakid, CrazyCanadian and CowGotMilk. The reason i at first assumed it was lipton was because when he joined either kid or milk said "HEY LIPTON" and CRAZYCANADIAN replied "HEY JOSH" so i assumed it was him. the 3 of you did nothing but horse around and the kid tried to get canadian kicked for tking him by asking us to kick him. canadian replied " u did it on my pc when i got a drink " . we basically said you guys weren't fooling anyone with your smurfed names and you all left. With further research last night on the guid that came up for crazycanadian, i cross refersenced the guid on our other servers and it is not liptons guid, but one that has been used by ta6pak and cudakid only a small number of times. You can check the guid through our vsp stats and do your own research if you like. just search for player by name. I am guessing it was a second computer or a friend of the kids, or who knows, i'm beginning to wish i never said anything and just bit my tongue!

so sorry Lipton for the confusion as well as the others whom misunderstood my posting!

Sorry as well to the cudas for posting this in public, but i wanted to straighten it out!

Twist it however you want.
Fact still remains it was Marine even thought all of you guys were so quick to defend him.




BTW the only reason I highlight stuff is because I don't like using the quote option built into the forum.
I think my way works best.
I've no clue why you need to make a big deal out about that unless it's just another way to divert what the topic was about and why we are once again here talking about the sa,me stupid stuff.

You can characterize if how ever you want but the fact still remains.
1) They were doing things they shouldn't have been doing, enough so that people on the server complained about it.
2) The ONLY reason MOB cares is because they were doing it on MOB server. If it was as you claim "No big deal". Then they could of done it on your server and if we wouldn't be talking about this now would we?
So take the lame accusation elsewhere

i havent fooled around in any of ur servers since i bought a new game. the only server i played on was stock maps. I am {CoW}Got Milk? Ask cero, ouch and others we were playing so good games. and please druid leave me alone please? You Must be real proud oout smarting a 14 year old boy...

MormonMarine

So Hamma attacks Lipton with unfounded acusations and I am an idiot. Where's the apology to Lipton. No instead of an apology, we get a redirect to another subject. How about that apology Hamma?

I don't know what MormonMarine does except when I am personally on and know. But this whole deal began as an attack on Lipton Cuda and MormonMarine (who was not even on according to everyone). So what's the deal? The deal is that we have the typical rationalization that happens everytime here.

Well, I know that rationalizations are more important than sex. See the :"Big Chill:" for an explanation. But I'm still waiting for someone to apologize to Lipton. I won't hold my breath, however.

As for being an idiot, please specify the basis of this assertion. How about some facts. Maybe its because I spent a couple of days trying to help Crazy Canuck with his ping problems. When people treat me with respect, I do the same. when people are Bullies I know how to deal with that as well.


miked

P.S. Cannuck, thanks for the explanation and for making it public. That confusion makes sense. The attacks however were uncalled for.

Lipton,

I'm sorry for the inaccurate claim that you were playing as CrazyCanadian. I had been given incorrect information as Crazy Canuck has just explained.

The rest of my original post still stands. You knew MormonMarine was playing under a spoofed name (and now we have it - straight from the Cow's mouth) on our servers. You chose to come into our forums and lie to us. You then send me a personal message in which you confirm your knowledge:

"you say MM was playing under {COW}Got Milk? and i knew about it, and thats why you want to ban me?! you should talk to ghost, churchill, and other MOB members who knew about it and THEY didn't say anything to you !"


Miked, how on earth does ANY of this concern you?

"Don't come here complaining about how the drama continues, when it people in your own damn clan causing it. Also, I have a very hard time believing you dind't know {CoW}GotMilk? was mormonmarine since he's been playing on your server for weeks using that name."

You have been monitering our servers obviously thats what i meant on why would u care enough to do that.

As for my comment on the highlighting, you always take one tiny part of the post and look for any inperfection and u dont focus on the main thoughts and points from the post. Dont accuse me of diverting attention, you still havent acknoledged that this is just a game and that it is stupid to ground someone over having fun

Wow, not cool.

It concerns me because you flat out attacked Lipton with Baseless accusations and wrong data. Lipton is my friend and he was attacked. Hmm, what could my concern be,. By the way Hamma what is your concern? Thank you for apologizing to Lipton.

miked

P.S. So can someone prove that Marine was on the Barb server with Lipton and Cudakid, yesterday? In addition Hamma, quoting from a PM seems unethical to me. This arguement is not over what Marine might have done at some time. It is over whether or not he Lipton and Cudakid were on Barb and lying about the situation. You tried to make it about something that was completely unrelated on a server that Lipton doesn't even go on. Then you tried to change the arguement to what someone knew about someone else. Whoa! Straws!

If MormonMarine was playing on our servers despite the fact that we banned him, and playing with the blessing of his father, and at the same time as his father, well, that seems like clear disrespect for MOB and our rules. People are welcome to play on other servers. The fact is they prefer to play here. Well, Marine and Trooper will be banned and they can go buy new games again and soon enough we'll figure it out and make them buy new games again.

I'm sure BSS guys will think that is horrible and unfair, but those are the rules. We didn't change them to try and get Marine in trouble. He always finds a way to do that on his own.
"But he's just a poor little kid trying to have fun". He can have fun in any other server he wants, just not here.

As for the idea that we are only making complaints now because it's people in BSS, well, a lot of BSS guys complained while in MOB about people being asses in our servers and could we kick or ban. Once again just because it is now a BSS person we become the bad guys for keeping the same standards we always have.

To everyone who has chimed in on this. We ( Cuda and Cudamom ) are trying to teach our kid about respect. We just had a major exit of some players from MOB including my son to play with BSS. This has left a bad taste in some peoples mouths and extremely teed off others. I am sure the BSS tags didn't help the situation any.

So he is ground from the computer for the day.

I simply want him to realize that a person is responsible for their actions and are also judged by the company they keep. Right or Wrong that is the world in which we live.

I am simply teaching our son respect. It is earned and to treat people and the community property with respect. ( such as servers )

Cudadad

I don't think that anyone can complain about Cuda being disciplined for what he did. As for the company, I think he could certainly do a lot worse. But of course, that is simply my opinion. I apologize if anything that I said contradicted your beliefs as a parent.

miked

I don't know the details of what happened in the barb server yesterday because I wasn't there. However, making a defence of MM as not being involved is a moot point to me because the fact is he is playing on our servers despite being banned. His guid is 680457.
Here he is playing on Barb on what the time stamp says was the 27th. He was playing with other BSS members. Well, this pisses me off. I'm also disappointed in people that I consider friends for not being more honest with me about it. I guess thats how it's going to be, though.

So because he bought a new game and played under a new name hes breaking rules. He didnt do anything wrong under Cow Got milk, he wasnt acting up he was there to play but that would be to easy for you, you have to go and screw around with him somemore and drag down trooper for what? buying his son a game?

bargod why cant {MOB} just leave me and trooepr alone. Trooper has done nothing, i have done nothing to be introuple for. i have only played in your stock maps doing nothing but playing. if u want to ban me fine I bought 4 more copys of the game so you can ban me and i will be back on your servers in 5min. i asked you guys to leave me a 14 year old boy alone. and yes i have done nothing so dont say iam making this up. Druid and bargod you must be having a bad day, or you didnt get enough love as a kid. But you really showed me up. dont say my name and i wont post just LEAVE ME ALONE PLEASE.

Cuda, I think you have an incredible grasp on this entire situation. I hope what you can get from the cluttered mess is that when you all are not around and it's just cudakid playing with us, he is very respectful. We just wanted you all to know that what he did yesterday was not a outright attempt to be disrespectful. Your decision as a parent was def. a fair one, make sure you understand no one is calling into question your ablilities as parents. I just want to defend cudakid.

What are the rules that say someone should inform on someone else. Personally I like the G Gordon Liddy view. There is no form of life lower than a snitch. Well unless its someone who quotes Private Messages. But that is another arguement.

I will be on our Barb and TF server. If any MOB members want to kick my ass I'll see you there. If you need the sever info check the BASE list of the game.


miked

Marine, I'd love to leave you and Trooper out of everything. As a matter of fact, we banned. That's how much we want to leave you out. So, you get another game and play on our servers anyway. So, Rutuu, that is how he broke the rules. For Trooper it is in my mind aiding and abetting.
Miked, I don't expect people to narc each other out. But if I ask a simple question and I get lied to, well, I don't appreciate that. It disappoints me.

didn't realise i attacked anyone! I just reported behaviour that killed the game because i,and others, were forced to police a server! I was merely trying to deliver a "time out", lol, not an attack!

I'll bet you run out of money before we get tired of banning you.

Old Man Mike

Aiding and abetting? Hes his dad for god sakes, when u were a kid who did u ask when u wanted something? Banning someone for buying there kid something is absolutely retarded

miked, it appears you haven't fully grasped the concept here.

Lipton's first post on this thread contains the information that has some of us so riled up:

how did you come up with marine in all of this?! he wasn't on all day he played a little with us yesterday BUT ONLY ON OUR PRIVATE SERVER.

keep him out of it

This is why we are upset as this is the lie. MM was on our server during the incident in question which took place on Sept. 29. Lipton came into our forums and lied about MM not being involved.

P.S. - I'm LOVING these colors, Druid!

Are you retarded? Please dont answer that, Marine was on OUR server playing with us yesterday. SO STOP INVOLVING HIM

Please provide the server logs showing Marine on with Cuda and Lipton and I will apologize.

miked

nope its 9bucks a game. thanks bargod i thought you were a nice guy, funny to with ur kid always buging you. can u tell me what i did wrong?
with all the drama it seems that u are mad that we left? lets get on vent and talk it out i got some things to say

i've never seen this many peeps in one thread!

No I'm not proud that I outsmarted a 14 year old boy, but I would be ashamed if I couldn't.
Just because you can lie without any consequence to your family & new clan, doesn't mean it's the same way here.
Now my question for you.
Are you ashamed I cuaght you in a flat out lie?
My guess is you could care less.

You know the rest of BsS came in here made themselves look like fools defending you.
Are you ashamed you made them look bad?
My guess is you could care less.

The only reason stuff like this keeps coming up is because of your own actions.
Are you ashamed you made yourself look bad?
My guess is you could care less.

As for this
bargod why cant {MOB} just leave me and trooepr alone. Trooper has done nothing, i have done nothing to be introuple for. i have only played in your stock maps doing nothing but playing. if u want to ban me fine I bought 4 more copys of the game so you can ban me and i will be back on your servers in 5min. i asked you guys to leave me a 14 year old boy alone. and yes i have done nothing so dont say iam making this up. Druid and bargod you must be having a bad day, or you didnt get enough love as a kid. But you really showed me up. dont say my name and i wont post just LEAVE ME ALONE PLEASE.
Even though I'm no longer involved in MOB, I will happpily take 5 minutes of of my day to scan the server logs for your new GUID to ban it each day.
You are correct, a Ban won't stop you from coming back if you buy multiple copies of the game.
Although I'm willing to bet, You'll run out of money buying new copies of the game long before I run out of bans for you.
If you honestly want to buy a new copy of the game everytime you want to play on MOB servers.
Please by all means go right ahead, as I will be laughing my ass off everytime I ban you.


I can't wait for the next round of BsS post trying to defend you now.

if you ban got milk you banned the wrong person LMFAO