An the laugh train rolls on.
The newest bit of humor comes from the change to the MOB server rules.

1st a little history.
The original server rules came about from a discussion after a few players were kicked off the server for dubious reasons.
During the course of the discussion, a decision was made that MOB should come up with a list of server rules so there would clear guidelines as to what was acceptable an unacceptable behavior.
At the end of the discussion, I was asked to come up with an initial sample list of server rules.
After coming up with the sample set of possible server rules, I started a new discussion to get feedback from other members for suggestions, comments.
Following that discussion, where EVERY member ( MOB and Reg ) was given the opportunity to participate in the discussion, a finalized list of server rules was posted.

For those who missed it, the key word today boys and girls is discussion.
discussion - an extended communication (often interactive) dealing with some particular topic, an exchange of views on some topic

I only bring this up after two MOB members mentioned how funny it was that the server rules were changed without any discussion.
http://mobclan.com/druid/rules.jpg

Without a doubt, the funniest change was the rule regarding profanity.
Apparently without any discussion it went form this
Profanity
Although we don't consider the {MOB} servers as G- rated, excessive or constant use of profanity is not allowed
to
Profanity
Althought we don't consider the MOB servers as G-rated, excessive or constant use of profanity is not allowed in chat or players names.
Any language that may be regarded as abusive or offensive associated to race, gender, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation will get you kicked or banned.
The 2nd line cracks me up.
When I 1st read it , I thought it sounded like some kind of stupid ACLU Political correctness doublespeak.
Then I did a search with that phrase and found a match with an ACLU news release regarding suggested guidelines for hate speech.
So not only does it sound like ACLU claptrap, it actually is.
Good job New-N-Improved MOB, you've now taken political correctness into the virtual world of online gaming.
It's not the lamest list of server rules I've seen but it does rank up in the top 10.

Let's take a closer look
Race
I don't know about now but didn't MOB use to run a server message stating raciest names or comments would result in a kick or ban. If so, wouldn't this be a little redundant?
Gender
Not sure about the point of this ones since I fail to see how a persons gender has anything to do with a FPS game.
Just to be fair to the ladies, I think everyone should boycott COD:UO , COD2 and COD4 due to the game only has male characters. Really how insensitive is that they are forcing females to play as male characters.
I don't know about you but I'm highly offended, at least MOHAA offered the option of the female French Resistance Manon character.
How sad that gaming has sunk so low over the last few years.
Ethnicity
This makes me wonder if the person understood what defines a person's ethnicity
If they did, they would probably have left it out because it's completely redundant as the very definition of it includes every group already listed in the rules plus any other possible group you could come up with.
Religion
This one brings up an interesting question.
Does this rule only apply to the servers or does it also apply to the forums.
I only ask because I remember a post from someone were they shared their child's cute little Sunday school question about the world. Someone responded that the child was being brainwashed behind the parents back.
So my question is, does a divisive statement like that on the server deserve a kick but is acceptable on the forum?
Then there is the other alternative, it's automatically acceptable regardless of where because an Admin said it and apparently what they say goes.
Sexual Orientation
Again, I fail to see how a person's sexual orientation could possibly have anything to do with a game but you're the boss, so whatever floats your boat.
I guess you could say MOB's official stance is the same as the U.S. Government.
Don't Ask.... Don't Tell.....
Whenever I hear that phrase I always think of the movie "Revenge of the Nerds"
When the group of nerds finally gets accepted as a chapter of the all black fraternity Lambda Lambda Lambda.
The sole Black member chimes in to change the fraternity membership requirements to "or regardless of sexual orientation"
FlashBack with me now to 1984
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzAJs7NutM
Does that bring back some memories?

Since the New-N-Improved MOB server rules now reflect a whole new level of lame ass political correctness.
I would like to help out by making a few suggestions of other special/protected groups you could add into the rules.

Weight
It's a daily occurrence that someone will tell another player to move their fat ass because said player is blocking a doorway or something.
How sad and uncaring would it be that MOB would allow someone to say something so offensive.
For all anyone knows that may be some grossly obese person who is unable to get out of their house an who's lone enjoyment in life is playing a video game.
Shame on you MOB for not protecting the rights of the grossly obese.
Physical Characteristics
If your going to limit comments which may be seen as offensive to weight, then you may as well include all other possible physical Characteristics. You shouldn't allow any statements which may be deemed as offensive based on physical appearance. This would also ban any discussion of midget tossing.
Newbie's
What about people who simply suck at the game.
Don't you think it's unfair they are often insulted for their inability to play the game well?
Doesn't MOB care about the newbies?
If MOB cared, they would outlaw all mention of an individuals ability or lack there of, in regards to how they play the game.
Age
I see no mention of age.
Surely that doesn't mean MOB supports age based discrimination
Disability
I'm not sure if this would also fall under the previously mentioned "Physical Characteristics" group.
You guys should have a discussion an come to an agreement if physical handicap is already protected under "Physical Characteristics"
Opps sorry, I forgot MOB doesn't have discussions anymore.
Veteran Status
With the current flood of "support the troops" rhetoric
I think it's only appropriate MOB should also ban any speech on the server which could be seen as offensive to those people who have served in the military, past or present.
Just to be safe, you could make that include past, present and possible future military service.
Political Affiliation
While Political Affiliation should be seen as fair game in political debates on the forum, it probably shouldn't be allowed on the server.
Technical Ineptitude
Just because some people are computer illiterate, doesn't mean they deserve to be insulted.
Nationality
I don't know how you could have missed that one.
Mental Defect
If someone suffers from a mental defect ( bipolar ) which results in the person acting like an ass on the server.
Then shouldn't they be allowed to act like an ass, since it's not their fault.
For that matter, what gives anyone else the right to question a player's misbehaviour
Economic Status
It shouldn't matter if you're rich or poor.
Intelligence Level
If someone is acting like a total dumb ass in the game, everyone should be required to ignore them and not mention it. Otherwise you run the risk of insulting someone as they may be a total dumb ass in real life.
Internet Connection.
It's down right discriminatory to mention someone's ping.
It's not their fault their interent connect sucks, so you shouldn't hold that against them.



It's my recommendation to change the rule for profanity to read as follows.
Although we don't consider the MOB servers as G-rated, excessive or constant use of profanity is not allowed in chat or players names.
Any language that may be regarded as abusive or offensive associated to race, gender, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, weight, physical characteristics, inability to play the game well, age, disability, veteran status, political affiliation, technical ineptitude, nationality, mental defect, economic status, intelligence level or Internet connection will get you kicked or banned.

It may be a mouth full but the New-N-Improved MOB's level of Political Correctness requires no less.

Just trying to help out and to prove it, even if you don't like my new list of server rules, you should at least spell check the current ones.

I'm confused.
Do they still allow Hue G. Rections?

I think that name would now only be allowed if used by a homo-sexual or bi-sexual.
I'm not a 100% sure as I find the new rules somewhat confusing

Robert ,thanks for the great laugh ,I had a busy day today and that cheered me up no end.

Is the name Dixon Alltheway still allowed?

That would be a yes if YOU were the only using the name.
For clarification, see my post here
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...st&p=171968

Woo Hoo!!

Any relation to Dixon Uranus?

I always loved your Avatar Real- that character on Sopranos gave me some good belly laughs.

--------

Don't forget Mike Hunt

This is looking more and more like the bss forums everyday.

Theres not a dams thing wrong with BsS Cory.



Why not jump on vent with them sometime?

Oh.... you two guys really cut me deep with that post
I may even shed a tear.

Honestly, what was the point of your post.
Both of them completely lack any substance.
If you think you have something to say, then by all means feel free to do so.
I only ask that you have the balls to say whats on your mind, no reason to mix words.

By my count 5 MOB members not only found my post funny but also
an entertaining reflection of how things work now.
If you don't agree with me, that's fine.
Move along, nothing to see here.
If you find it offensive on some level, then you should probably stick to your new "More Secure" website.



See this is the beauty of open honest discussion.
I strongly disagree with what shred said but it doesn't mean I'm going to delete it.
Not my fault your New-N-Improved admins can't say the same.
BTW this isn't against BsS as a whole but certian members

Druid, please ban me from these forums!

Have fun!

Hey Cory, I think you are misinterpreting a bit here. The bullshit boys ... er ... BSS broke away to form their own clan. That isn't what is happening here. I'm not sure what is happening here, but I find myself checking these forums every day. I enjoy reading what Pat, James, Robert and others have to say. We can't find that at the new website for whatever reason.

Same clan, different website; minus a few of the cornerstones of our clan, IMO.

I got a real kick out of your use of the term "everyday," which is evidence that something keeps drawing you back here as well. None of us really know what that something is. For me, it is those that remain and post here, for others it may be something different.

What are you implying, you would otherwise lack the self control not come here?
You do understand that you are an adult with free will, no one is forcing you to read this, much less post?

Just to be fair, if this is your flamboyant attempt to make some obscure point.
Who am I to deny you that right.
If you feel the need, all you have to do is start a new topic stating your reasons why you require your account to be banned.
Other wise maybe you should take my earlier advice an stick to your new "More Secure" website.



BTW for anyone counting.
The number is now up to 6 MOB who thinks my post was funny.
Anyone care to make it 7?
After all, what are you afraid of?

I like you, but why come in the forum that we're having fun keeping up to promote sour grapes. I have issues with the 'clandestinely conspired' shift of largely unsuspecting/unquestioning members to another Forum but life's too short for me to come over to the 'otherside.com' and start crybabying -with in fact what I do know that some of you don't 'over there' and am keeping my word not to divulge-so don't feel too lofty and riteuous with the newly set-up structure as well oiled and finely running as it perhaps is now, old chum.

So like I said, I like you but.... that BSS quip -if it was meant to be so- really reminds me of the way others liked to rabble rouse in intrusive ways as was the custom when BSS broke off with frictitious members making spiteful appearances in forums they supposedly were happy to be departed from and done with.
I have no problems with BSS myself, but you're actually kind of doing what you're actually making a joke out of.

The only forum this looks like is the new mob forum both are dead



You try to insult people but all you did was amke a fool of yourself.
Shred with his 1 man operation and little 16 player server is more popular than anything MOB has.
BsS has already passed half your servers.

I dont get it, whats so wrong with revising the rules? I think it was more because of the jag-offs that were typing "nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger" (and so on and so forth) on COD4 servers more than anything else. I mean, before I even had the game, I knew that apparently someone had left the gate open over on the COD4 jackass farm, because so many people were complaining about the really harsh verbal abuse that was going on. Anyone who was on these forums during the first 6 months the game was out knows that! There were new requests for bans almost daily.



Moreover, with Minicross and all the other "little shavers" on board, I personally dont have any problem with the revision in rules. I mean, Im a big boy, I spent 4 years in the service, I know all the cuss words and everything, even some in Croatian (Puši kurac!), German and Spanish but why not be polite? Whats it harming to show a little reservation, instead of trying to be a schmuck (Not that you per se are trying to be a schmuck, it was more of a generalization)? Thats one of the things that actually appealed to me about MOB in the first place; was the fact that the folks here seemed to be mature, and above stupid name calling involving genetalia and sexual.



My response has no motive, no political alliances behind it; I dont know what the hell is/has been going between the old timers, and I personally dont care.Im here to play a game, not get in intercontinental dirt clod fights.

Whenever I hear “secure server” I smile.

Does everybody know that one of the TheOtherMob admins was monkeying with my permissions and accidentally gave me access to the private forums? To the point where I knew who was up for a vote.



It’s a good thing old Shred has a good heart.

For most of you still here i believe this forum is being used for fun as it was our home for years. The fact you think i'm here promoting sour grapes makes me laugh. The reason druid keeps this forum up is to promote sour grapes! If you can't see that nothing i say will make a difference now. This whole thread, like many others, is a bash at the new site and the admins who run it. Every reference to TheOtherMob.com is a "sour grapes" comment referred to as "theothermob". One of druids own, as well as others, highly preached standards of not editting peoples posts is a pretty hypocritical stance in itself. How many threads and posts with a link to TheOtherMob.com have been changed to read theothermob.com. How many pm's have been used against people and brought into public view to twist a story in a fashion that magically reflect positively on druid. I've yet to see another admin drag peoples private messages into public light. If druid wants to hide behind lies and use his friends as a wall that's his choice i guess. IMO, the comment i made regarding the similarities to the beginnings of the BSS forum and the way some of you have been bashing the new site as well as the admins who run it was fairly accurate. I'm sure we'll see many more long winded posts carefully worded to make druid look innocent and golden, as well as ones from his friends backing up the fact. All i can say is enjoy the aroma and keep a scoop shovel handy! I leave you guys to your nostalgic playground and hope life treats ya well!

My last post!

Commence the bashing!

Ohhh boo fucking hooo.
Cry me a river


BTW I haven't edited any post.
I simply made use of the available word filter.
Which was initially done at the request of a few MOB members who didn't agree with the secret move or their lack of any input.
Who at 1st considered staying here and didn't want this forum used to advertise the other MOB site.
Then they reconsidered and decided against it even though they didn't like how the admins handled things.
They decided to follow the new MOB motto " Go Along to get along"

Everyone left on their own accord, for whatever reasons, so be it
You left, good for you, but don't try to insult me over the fact I have no intention of allowing you to use this site to advertise your new one.

Lastly concerning, your complaint about the posting of a PM.
Don't be such a freaking hypocrite. I don't remember you condemning it when it was previously done to show someone was lying to cause problems.
So please drop your sanctimonious outrage, it doesn't impress me.
The truth is your unspoken basis to complain about the PM means you apparently support someone lying as long as it's done privately and it's not about you.
All I did was confront the person about their B.S.
Word to the wise, if a person doesn't want to be held accountable for what they say.
Then they should probably keep their pie hole shut.

i dont feel this forums is promoting sour grapes at all,its just a few people talking .ive gone into the new forums and hadnt seen any conversations i wanted to post in yet, i dont post in alot of the conversations in here as well.as for a bss comment ,i have to ask why? we are not bashing MOB and to the other guy, we are not bashing bss either,der?hell MOB will be the only clan/community ill ever be a part of ,i have nothing against any one over there at the new forums all,never have. i played shreds server the other night and yes there was alot of bss there and geno as well,i was starting to hope this MOB BSS thing would finally come to an end and out pops an comment like this because a few people were comfy in there surroundings and wanted to carry on the posts.

if anyone has negative comments , just dont come here then.

I've given up on anyone caring enough to ask what's really gone on or what's happening even now. Good luck to anyone who does decide to not "go along to get along". I still come here because I can. I'm capable of reading what someone says and asking questions to either side if it does or does not ring true.

Shred, Sorry I couldn't change your access when you told me to begin with. I don't have access to do it there like I did here. So I figured I'd wait till someone else figured it out to do it. Thanks for letting me know though.

As far as BsS goes I don't think most of us care what they do. I play with them here and there if I see Shred on with them. Or Dead. I just want to shoot people on the servers. I could care less who's server is ranked where. I play on the TWL teams and will do my best to make sure we stay at the top there.


I don't like what's going on with either side but even though I don't always agree with how Druid presents things I have to somewhat agree with him. Things are not discussed. Even now in the "secure" forums where there is no excuse anymore of "Druid might see". Even things that are discussed are ignored in favor of things that are not. Example would be that we have a custom maps server in cod4. I never saw anything said about it. I did however see a discussion with input from several people that would like to see how another stock HQ server would do. I could care less what we put up. I'll find somewhere to play and I'll keep playing with the same people I play with now. But it is strange that nobody else questions any of this. Like I said before I've given up. When someone brings up an important topic and asks that it remain serious and it devolves into the three stooges I figured what's the point? So good luck to anyone else who decides to.

Ok Crazy....

Discussion:

What exactly did Druid lie about?
Did he hack into the server.... If it is like you claim, and it is worth throwing the clans history and some past members under the bus, then prove it!
There was not 1 open discussion debate, or reason other than Druid had the domain name.

What was the reason for deleting the thread, why not post it for the world to see?
Did Druid rip on anyone in MOB in the thread? and how was he stiring the pot?

A post was ripped, (not the only one) and somone had the audacity to question it... WOW. An inflamitory reply was posted full of accusations.

Druid replied... and rather than posting the other side of the story Steel, quit.... well not really they started making plans to move the entire clan to the world of their creation without even explaing why...
Did MOB even have a vote, and if they did was there a conclusion or was it like every other debate and rather than count the votes... you WEIGHED them.

Was there ever a discussion on Steel being let back into MOB after she quit for the 3rd time?

About the PM,
Has that ever been explained?
How the PM was intercepted in Steels inbox, and replied (as Steel) without steel ever knowing it?

** if the Reply was not intercepted, then it would have been brazen to post a reply, knowing that "the real Steel" would reply as well and the jig would be up... (play mission impossible theme)
You would think that with all of the technologies they could show exactly when, where and from what IP that thread came from.....

Lastly you are again implying that Druid lied... Please back up at least 1 claim....

From what this little mushroom saw, The Pied Piper
Deleted a post, got questioned, made accusations, quit, was re-instated, led the rest of the group over to the new clan page, broke apart and isolated hell even lost some members, and did all this to my understanding without one single open discussion or vote about moving, being MOB again, or any of the accusations.

There were around 50 people in MOB and 100 in Regs how many really made the decision? Was it more about protecting egos or was it about what is right... and who defines what is right, and how many people decided?

It's kind of hard to define right and wrong without out the word of the day.. DISCUSSION


So all of that was swallowed and believed and you are telling us that we are the sheep following people around and protecting Druid. Look in the mirror!

P.S. I really could use some of those post holes for the fence I'm putting up.

Mr Geno:
what you are describing is a situation that has happened only due to inherent human weakness. It is easier to go along and not say anything, play your game and talk to your friends, thus that is what is done.

Not to offend anyone, but using myself as an example, I have a lot of other avenues in my life where I can exert myself and take the necessary time to create a desired result and sadly the politics of MOBclan do not hold the same sway in my life as they used to.

I still use barry mycockener on a regular basis!

HELLO AGAIN EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE THE TYPO I MADE IN MY PRIOR COMMENT- HOPEFULLY EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT I REALLY MEANT BUT I SHOULD MAKE THE CLARIFICATION RIGHT NOW SO THAT PEOPLE DO NOT GET THE WRONG IMPRESSION WHY I'M INDULGING IN THIS FORUM SO MUCH OF LATE SINCE THE 'TRANSFER' EN MASSE OF MEMBERS.
RE:
QUOTE(Crazy Canuck @ 03/25/08 3:12am) *
This is looking more and more like the bss forums everyday.

hellfighter quote:
I like you, but why come in the forum that we're having fun keeping up to promote sour grapes.,,,,,,

HERE'S WHAT I MEANT TO SAY;
I like you, but why come in the forum that we're having fun IN, TO promotE YOUR sour grapes. [IE, WITH THE BSS REMARK/QUIP].

JUST WANT TO CLEAR THAT UP.... EVERYONE STILL IN THE 'SOURCE' HERE ARE HAVING FUN IN OUR COMPANY-WE'RE NOT ABOUT GOING OVER TO ANOTHER'S FORUMS TO MAKE CHEAPSHOT POSTS WITH MALICE IN MIND.

CANUCK; PEOPLE MAKE A FORUM- YOU ACT AS IF DRUID PLEADED WITH PEOPLE TO STAY AND POST.
WE THAT ARE STILL HERE RECEIVED NO SUCH CALL... I ALWAYS MADE IT KNOWN THAT I WAS STAYING PUT HERE FROM THE VERY START - NOBODY ELSE DECIDED THAT FOR ME; AND I POSTED AWAY WITH A PASSION AFTER THE EXODUS EVEN WHEN NOBODY ELSE WAS REPLYING, SO PLEASE CHUM STOP DELUDING YOURSELF THAT EVERYONE WHO IS IN THIS FORUM ARE PUPPETS- -- WE'RE FRIENDS ENJOYING BEING AROUND EACH OTHER. ITS DRUIDS FORUM TO TAKE DOWN/KEEP UP AS HE DESIRES.
IF YOU WANT TO SELL THAT OBSCURE GRAND MASTER THEORY STORY, WHY NOT JUST DO IT AT OTHERSIDE.COM. BUT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE MANY THERE DON'T SEE THAT PLOY AS HAVING MUCH SUBSTANCE.... YOU MAY THINK SO, BUT I DON'T CARE FOR IT AS DO MANY OTHERS WHO WANT TO JUST GET ON WITH THINGS ON A FRESHER NOTE RATHER THAN DELIBERATE 'MOVES' TO REHASH 'ISSUES.... I HOPE WE WON'T HAVE TO START REFERRING TO YOU AS CANUCK CLINTON.....

And the source of the sour grapes;
Well obviously as I saw it; a few of you that departed in the exodus could not be happy with just leaving.
For many who left there was confusion and perhaps an apathy to figure out why they were leaving across the desert.
But to the few that were over the moon with the 'coup' there was definitely some sense total victory could not be had if the seeming void in thIS SEEMINGLY DEFUNCT forum would not spell the 'source' forum from soon having no functionality and then closing down - and supposedly pushing in the dagger to the hilt into the heart of its Rightful owner....
Well things didn't exactly turn south for these 'few' pushing on that dagger.
The Forum is still up and lively.
Genuine fun was being had here in the last few weeks- with former friends popping in to enjoy.
But now it seems a few of you with gripes -and apparently upset your seeming 'confirmed kill' on the source forum/and its owner was not so- are coming back for guerilla tactics to upset the cart.
Perhaps this is because of pristine rules set up at otherside.com warn against smearing posts- and therefore, the only place to have fun for the rabble rousers with their hassling posts that have no merit, is to come back here and raise some hell.
Well you're looking dumb.... we're having fun here and you're doing little to make your 'resurrected forum' look anything but still bearing the seeds of vindictive spite.
Your/our friends see what your up to and I'll assume they'll be on your case to back off and let things go on their own merry ways -as in letting go..... or is your vendetta that deep that you want to draw out more pus from the wound you loved to open up needlessly AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY while here in recent years.

Update.
The count is now up to 7 MOB who thought my post was funny.
If you're not one of the 7, then it sucks to be you.

About the PM message which BTW I didn't bring up, Canuck did.
I find the line about the PM funniest of all.
You claim I was wrong to post it, not that it was a lie, which implies it's real.
Yet I was told the person INDIRECTLY claimed it wasn't real.
Pretty sad when a person refuses to take responsibility for what they say, which is exactly what this forum is about.

Maybe you guys should get together and have a Discussion to get your stories straight.


Care to guess what the key word is?

It is becoming clear to me now that I didn’t retire from MOB. I retired from that train wreck over at theOtherside.com

So... uhh... I just got back from being away for 3 months and... well... uh.... HUH?

I'm confused.


I've tried reading some of these posts that are all over the place but havent quite put it all together yet... perhaps more reading is required?

You won't find anything posted that will inform you, sorry.

Ah, what else is new? I'm perpetually misinformed.

Well Cpt. old chum I can describe it like this.....

One day here at the forum all of a sudden there was your AVATAR multiplied by 100 - without ceasing.

Cpt.

Here was all of the public discussion (threre is that damn word again) I was able to pull up, they are in the order they appeared (I think)

In a nutshell, some moved on... some stayed... and well in your case some were left behind.

http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=16444

http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=16638

http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=16643

http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=16645

Hopefully this helps fill in some pieces of the puzzle. I don't think you will find any more info or answers to questions.

Take care

Blitz

Basically Canuck,

There came a point where the MOB admins didnt have complete control. Much like they didn't have control of my Shottyville. And frankly, when you are on the other end of the MOB admins gun you are pretty much toast.



Oh wait. Unless you are Druid.

Probably the most respected member to ever put the fucking tags on. But the admins wouldn't have a clue about that. Or should I say "an admin"



Because, to be honest, most of the MOB admins are people I respect quite a lot. errrr except a certain malicious one. (and to be honest, the fact that this admin hates me is a bit of a turn on)



When Mike wanted to close Shottyville, and Steel killed Barb, I resigned from MOB. But I did alert a certain Senior MOB about the admin problem. It fell on deaf ears.



So I said "ok MOB, you made your bed now you can sleep in it". Seems pretty tame now doesn't it?

But I don't hold any grudges because the reality is. My friends were always my friends. Many MOB and Regs didn't bail on me that could have. Instead they are still my buds.



So in summary: I know that people have good intentions. And Most MOB are good people. But I cannot recognize that group at that site as MOB. Because in my eyes, MOB is still here.



And Slimshady.

Don't you ever fucking tell Hamma Time he isn't MOB when you didn't donate to MOB for like four years. Check KT's 4 years of charts and tell me I'm lying punk.

At one point 8 members of MOB thought my server rules post was funny.
Now that Hamma has quit that number has dropped back down to 7.


I guess than means if you can figure out who the other 7 are.
Then you can insult them until they quit too.


Just think, get 7 more people to quit and then no MOB will think my post is funny.
That's all it will take for you to justify to yourselves how wrong I am.

to whom it may concern:

Robert and {MOB}, the truth has set you free. you need nothing more then to continue this path.

The {FakeMOB}, you will fail in 6 months. the train wreck has begun, the engine has ran aground.

Yes because the only determinant of MOB membership has and always will be how much one donates. Shut the fuck up asshat.

Shred although none of your concern, i'm in university, a student with not very much money for myself trying to get an education to get a job. I do not have enoug money to be putting towards game severs and alot of the MOB members know that. I'm sorry for not donating to please you.

|$aucy| & Slim
I don't have a problem with you personally or over the fact we are obviously on different sides of this subject.
With that said, I think it's only fair to point out the original MOB requirements posted by Realdeal almost 3 years ago say NOTHING about money.
Money wasn't made a specific requirement until Mike updated the requirements to include
"Ability to make periodic financial contributions"

In fact if you look the new site, the MOB requirements have also been changed again with probably no discussion, same as the server rules.
Now there are only 3 requirements
1) Ladder TEAM gaming skill or leadership
2) Getting along with other team players
3) Maturity & ability to make periodic financial contributions

Don't you think it's strange to make money such a subject ( 1 of 3 requirements ) when several people in MOB have NEVER donated.
We're talking about people who have been around for years but have never bothered to donate $5.
I don't have a problem with it, as I understand everyone has a different financial situation.
Which is probably why Realdeal didn't make it a strick requirement for MOB membership.
I think it was the right thing to do as otherwise you would end up with the feeling people were buying their way in.
I also understand some of the most outspoken people in MOB about how MOB should be ran are the same who have never bothered to doante $5, even though they are more than financially able.
One person went as far to previously say that if he had to donate, he would probably quit as it wasn't worth it to him. This from someone who plays on a brand new $2000 computer but can't be bothered to chip in $5 every now and then.


Kind of strange that MOB has the final say but the Regs on several occasions have donated more money to keep the servers open.



I say this with full knowledge a few people are going to run back to disect everything I say, to find ways to point out how wrong I am.
Just remember, this is all black an white.
Stated MOB membership requirements as posted on this forum and the new undiscussed yet changed version on the new site.
So please remember while people are off in the corners, privately saying how wrong I am.
No One is going to have the balls to say anything Publicly.
Why? Because the people know they would quickly talk themselves into a corner and only make themselves look like a fool.

Please understand Saucy& Slim, this last comment was NOT directed at either of you guys.

I was in College with not much money coming too- kinda like nearly everyone here. I'm making a living and still not enough money to put to game servers as I'd like. I hope you get your education and loads of $$$ by the end of it all. Regardless, try and enjoy life anyway.
But you need to realize alot of people have issues of various degrees to deal with outside of the servers -like yourself; real life things. The last thing someone coming into a game server/game-forum to escape a couple of hours from those 'issues' wants to deal with are pointless antics and rehashing dramas, crossing over to post in a forum [cursing out someone because they leave a clan?]

I only say this because perhaps you don't realise yet just how fast time flies as you get older and you'd be better spending your time progressively rather than the very pointless antics some others around you should know better to not encourage you to act out. We all have things other to deal with-extra headaches shouldn't be amongst them.

My concern was the attack on Hamma Time.



Thats not the Slim I know. Its one of the meanest things I've seen in gaming.

He quit the clan for Christ sake.





But Saucy is right. I'll just shut up and let you guys rip each pther. Its not BLAM! businss.

seriously slim , no offense but i remember a guy who would help anyone with tips and tactics,coming from a guy you helped ,why the hate? i was like,im sure someone posted something stupid on the new MOB forums ,went there and nothing posted so here we are again with a bunch of BS . we all were friends i thought.whats with the public ousting of hamma? they were the FIRST #1 {MOB} cod team right? in my world that gives {MOB} street cred,hell was a part of that team too .the fact a few of us stuck around here a bit was mostly conversations,latley im seeing alot of derogatory posts towards MOB members.is this how it should be?

remember just playing ?fun? friends?



i havent seen any of this in ages.i was on the soap box "elite band wagon" (not being one of them) but guess what,the reason moh and cod was such a {MOB}success was because of teamwork and friendship.this clan has survived because every one had a say,not just going along for the ride. like ive said numerous times before,have nothing against anyone over there (except flatliner!!!) just want to play and hoping i will be welcome on e all servers .

I have regretted what I said, I also apologized to Hammer on the other forums, I was just pissed off about stuff that has been said over the last fews months and I blew up.

Just for the record I would like to state.
If you ever want to ensure there is no argument about something, this works wonders


"I say this with full knowledge a few people are going to run back to dissect everything I say, to find ways to point out how wrong I am.
Just remember, this is all black an white.
Stated MOB membership requirements as posted on this forum and the new undiscussed yet changed version on the new site.
So please remember while people are off in the corners, privately saying how wrong I am.
No One is going to have the balls to say anything Publicly.
Why? Because the people know they would quickly talk themselves into a corner and only make themselves look like a fool."


What's the saying...
Thunderous silence

Or how about....
You could hear a pin drop.



Yes I know, I'm a big meanie.

Not true Druid... you're not listening hard enough...

These forums are certainly entertaining nowadays.

WOW! Im glad to see you are still here guys!This is my home.You were the very best to me.Everyone always knew what was going on.Or at least I thought so anyway.I do not like where MOB has gone.Anyone can be a member now.It used to be hand picked and invite only.There are new people every day and we are even getting hackers cause we dont get to know them.Its all about get them right now,hurry up.doesnt matter what they are like.Ive brought this up to deaf ears and it bothers me.I play for the fun and the companionship that is developed through it.I am pretty much out of all the stuff cause it just gives me a damn headache.Im only staying in MOB these days for my son to have a chance to compete,and so that I do have some perks,such as passwords.I am friends with many and wouldnt play really else where so why not keep the tags.It used to be a real honor to be part of MOB but those days are gone for me.I just enjoy alot of the people on vent.Some of us have been talking for years and I hope to travel and visit quite a few of them.I do miss gaming with you Real.You were always a class act towards me and made sure that I was taken care of ,which I will never forget.And you Druid I didnt get to play with that much cause you were always busy but you too were always there when I needed something.I truely do miss the mohaa days and you guys.I dont even know what made me come here.I guess just curious to see if still up.Well take care guys!
TOM