Six of the seven Marines killed Monday died near Haditha, and the seventh was killed in a suicide bombing in Hit to the southeast. The extremist Ansar al-Sunnah Army claimed responsibility for killing the six Marines.
Masked gunmen showed up in the Haditha public market Monday afternoon displaying helmets, flak jackets and other equipment they said were taken from the bodies of the dead Marines.
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sick fuck let them rot in hell
damn straight ice... drop a few MOABs on them motherfuckers. blow 'em all to fuckin hell. stupid assfuckin douchebags.
sorry for my vulgarity, this just really pisses me off.
cut off all support to muslim countries and see if they hate us again, everyone go and buy a toyota prius, or a honda motorcycle so we can say fuck OPEC!
Maj. H8Red
08/05/05 12:07pm
QUOTE(Silver @ 08/04/05 2:18pm)
cut off all support to muslim countries and see if they hate us again, everyone go and buy a toyota prius, or a honda motorcycle so we can say fuck OPEC!
Yeah....whoa wait just a sec. ....if we all did that...I'd be out of a job....I say we just nuke the dirty rotton bastards
well if american cars get up to date (toyota is bringing in more hybrid's planning 25% of its sales on this) I would support american labor unions (seeing as they keep me employed)
Too Exclusive
08/08/05 5:41pm
i agree that they should die...
but think about it this way... if the video were flipped around you guys would be like "YEA!! GOOD JOB!!" they're only soldiers, just of the opposing army. it would just be like saying every person that served in the german army during WW II is a nazi and deserves to die. that's wrong, because most that served in the german army were NOT nazis, and were only doing their job. just a different way of looking at it, if u can be open-minded.
Why do i bother to read your posts!
You sound like a terrorist sympathizer.
Too Exclusive
08/08/05 5:54pm
No, you're just conditioned to believe anybody that's not gung-ho about killing arabs is a terrorist sympathizer. All I'm saying is that those are just soldiers of an army, they're not necessarily "terrorists". Now I even said I think they should die... I'm just saying they're not necessarily "terrorists".
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/08/05 6:54pm)
No, you're just conditioned to believe anybody that's not gung-ho about killing arabs is a terrorist sympathizer.
Wrong!! There you go thinking again!
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/08/05 6:54pm)
All I'm saying is that those are just soldiers of an army, they're not necessarily "terrorists".
Look at it how you want, But they fight against and kill Americans. So in turn they are supporting terrorism.
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/08/05 6:54pm)
Now I even said I think they should die... I'm just saying they're not necessarily "terrorists".
I agree with you here.
Too Exclusive
08/08/05 6:19pm
QUOTE(Undertow @ 08/08/05 6:12pm)
Look at it how you want, But they fight against and kill Americans. So in turn they are supporting terrorism.
I disagree. Just because someone fights America that doesn't mean they support terrorism. Here's something to think about: if another country invaded us, would you fight? Damn right you would. You're fighting that country because they invaded you, you're fighting to keep the occupation out, not necessarily because you support the present. Shit, I'd fight, but that doesn't mean I support the president, just like it don't mean that any person that fights Americans in Iraq supports terrorism. They're just fighting for their homeland.
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/08/05 7:19pm)
just like it don't mean that any person that fights Americans in Iraq supports terrorism. They're just fighting for their homeland.
That makes no sence! Were there trying to rebuild their country & their killing americans. You say thats fighting for there homeland!?!? You do remember THEY started this right? If they didnt want us there maybe they should've thought twice before running planes into building's.
The reason i said you 'sound' like a sympathizer is cuz of statments like this "They're just fighting for their homeland."
They are animal pigs. There's something called the Geneva Convention. While I agree it's ironic to have rules of war, it's there nonetheless and the U.S. follows it. They are not soldiers of a nation, they are Radical Islamic Terrorists.
Too Exclusive
08/08/05 7:13pm
QUOTE(Undertow @ 08/08/05 6:32pm)
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/08/05 7:19pm)
just like it don't mean that any person that fights Americans in Iraq supports terrorism. They're just fighting for their homeland.
That makes no sence! Were there trying to rebuild their country & their killing americans. You say thats fighting for there homeland!?!? You do remember THEY started this right? If they didnt want us there maybe they should've thought twice before running planes into building's.
The reason i said you 'sound' like a sympathizer is cuz of statments like this "They're just fighting for their homeland."
Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. See I could understand the invasion of afghanistan, because Bin Laden was supposedly in Afghanistan. Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11 or anything like that, that's just what Bush told you. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. All of the hijackers except 1 or 2 were from Saudi Arabia, and the 2 that werent were from Afghanistan. And see, they don't see it like that. They don't see it like "they're trying to rebuild our homeland". All they know is that there's a country there that they don't want there. And Iraqis did NOT ram the planes into the buildings, it was the Saudis. Iraq was just the scapegoat.
QUOTE(realdeal @ 08/08/05 7:47pm)
They are animal pigs. There's something called the Geneva Convention. While I agree it's ironic to have rules of war, it's there nonetheless and the U.S. follows it. They are not soldiers of a nation, they are Radical Islamic Terrorists.
I noticed how you just skip over my post so I thought I would bump it for you. Not only that, I'll give you a visual on difference between "them" and US.
First, click
HEREThis video was taken by Iraqi insurgents. In the video, the insurgents snipe a US soldier from about 80ft. The solider is knocked off his feet but saved by his protective vest. He crawls to safety and locates his attackers. The film ends here however, the
US solider ended up shooting and wounding his attackers in return fire and then assisted in saving their lives. Now, let's see how "they" handle themselves....
In this video The Islamic Army of Iraq shoots down a commercial helicopter north of the Iraqi capital killing 11 people, including six American contractors. Watch the video to the end, one of the passengers survives, look at how well they treat this poor soul.
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TE they were shooting at our planes against the un security council rcomendations and after time and time again us brought this to the table, and the un kept backing down. hummm wonder why.... oh shit... all comes back to me now the UN is a pussy-ass corrupt governing body that was taking bribes and turning their head while they sold oil and brought weapons from france etc. where was this money going, not to the people that it was intended to, while Saddam ruled and tried to kill our troops and let his people starve and dehydrate, we tried to help the fucking cammel jockey, towel head, muslim pieces of shit... now they want to be anarchist with no governing body to rule, (similar to the majority of 3rd world gov. best noted in the movie black hawk down <ran by rebel leaders>) now we could have stood back and let thousands die and grow hate to the west because we didnt help them and let the terrorist fucks grow more hate. but instead we planted a seed of good will to the Iraq and Afganistan people (gee they can fly a kite and listen to the radio now, how fucking horrible for them

). guess we forgot the reason why we are there, bush make a fear generated push to invade, which he didnt need. we had enough reasons to invade as it was. TE do us all a favor and STFU! go make good posts and stay out of politics. (sometimes i wonder if it shouldnt be a privilege to vote... <not like voting really fucking matters

)
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/08/05 8:13pm)
Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
Sadam let the terrorist set up places in Iraq for terrorist training camps, you dumbass! Sadam got paid for that!!! So yeah he did have a part in 911.
Too Exclusive
08/08/05 9:12pm
QUOTE(Undertow @ 08/08/05 8:19pm)
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/08/05 8:13pm)
Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
Sadam let the terrorist set up places in Iraq for terrorist training camps, you dumbass! Sadam got paid for that!!! So yeah he did have a part in 911.
Please cite your sources.
See the thing is, our propaganda machine is amazing. If the shit u guys are saying is true (i've never heard this and most poeple i know have never heard the stuff ur sayin about them tryna shoot our helicopters down and shit... our propaganda machine would've used reasons like that to get the whole country backed on war. Why didn't they? because they dont exist. see u guys think that anyone that's not a conservative shouldnt have the right to vote. that's sad.
http://www.cfr.org/background/background_iraq_ties.phpIts probably all lies cuz it contradict's your believe's.
I have heard of that, I don't know from where. The GOP should have used that as the platform for invading. The WMD argument was unnecessary. Saddam had already violated every UN sanction placed upon him, and that's all the reason any member of the UN needed to attack. Hell, it should have been done over a decade ago when the original ultimatum ended. But no, like what happened with Hitler, the UN let Saddam go with just a slap on the hand instead of the promised military force.
Another good reason for invading would be Saddam's slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Kurds. Or his torture chambers that drip sulfuric acid on helpless prisoners. Or the attacks on our helicopters. Or his sponsorship of terrorist training camps. Or his burying squadrons of flight-ready MIG fighters in the desert. Most of this I have learned from a high-ranking military official that I know. Oddly enough, very little of it gets into the press. Wonder why? I say liberal bias. If the media were controlled by the government, you'd hear about those things, as well as the hospitals and schools that are being built in Iraq. And the fact that Canadians are relieving several battalions of our soldiers in Afghanistan. Seems strange that the government would hide information that makes them look good.
Too Exclusive
08/08/05 10:39pm
i agree he did kill the kurds, he did torture lots of people and what not. but people know about that. wtf does it bother us? there are TONS of brutal dictators like that throughout the world. we cant invade them all, so why did we go for Saddam over all them? there is so much they gain from invading Iraq it's not even funny.
Too Exclusive
08/09/05 12:24am
QUOTE(Undertow @ 08/08/05 9:17pm)
http://www.cfr.org/background/background_iraq_ties.phpIts probably all lies cuz it contradict's your believe's.
dude, look where you're getting your information from. CFR's website! why don't you just get it from whitehouse.gov in that case. the sad thing is that u always tell me "stop giving us these propaganda conspiracy theory websites", well giving me something from CFR's website is just as bad as me giving you something from a propaganda conspiracy website. of course you wouldn't know anything about CFR. next time before you post a link, know where your information's coming from.
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/09/05 1:24am)
dude, look where you're getting your information from. CFR's website! why don't you just get it from whitehouse.gov in that case. the sad thing is that u always tell me "stop giving us these propaganda conspiracy theory websites", well giving me something from CFR's website is just as bad as me giving you something from a propaganda conspiracy website. of course you wouldn't know anything about CFR. next time before you post a link, know where your information's coming from.
Yeah, its probably not as trust worthy as your source. Since your's is factual and this link is apparently a government conspiracy! Wow thanks for setting me straight. And to set you straight I have NEVER told you "stop giving us these propaganda conspiracy theory websites". But it does seem funny that every source is bullshit unless it fits your agenda. You are the posterboy for the stereotypical teenage know it all. Everyone's wrong but you. Yeah, were all fucked in the head & your the only sane one. You would think that since your political views tend to piss everyone off, That you would stop and think, Hey maybe i shouldnt spew anit-goverment sentiments. But hey, one day you'll grow up and realize YOU DONT KNOW EVERYTHING!!! Next time before you accuse someone of saying something, make sure that person actually said it.
Later Terrorist Sympathizer!
Browsing that site, it looks very factuial. Most of the answers say something to the effect of "Experts disagree" or "There is no actual evidence supporting...."
Too Exclusive
08/09/05 7:06am
alright so maybe YOU yourself never said that undertow, but i was talkin about you guys in general. and no wat u said isn't the case. it's just when u take something from CFR's website, why don't you get it from white houses website itself? i wouldn't trust anything from CFR's website. I'd trust Fox News first.
my facts came right from the un security council reports, which can be found
http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/
Undertow
08/09/05 11:59am
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/09/05 8:06am)
alright so maybe YOU yourself never said that undertow, but i was talkin about you guys in general. and no wat u said isn't the case. it's just when u take something from CFR's website, why don't you get it from white houses website itself? i wouldn't trust anything from CFR's website. I'd trust Fox News first.
Once again! Every source is bullshit unless it fits your agenda! I'm done talkin to you about this. You have a very thick skull my friend,
Too Exclusive
08/09/05 2:50pm
QUOTE(Undertow @ 08/09/05 11:59am)
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/09/05 8:06am)
alright so maybe YOU yourself never said that undertow, but i was talkin about you guys in general. and no wat u said isn't the case. it's just when u take something from CFR's website, why don't you get it from white houses website itself? i wouldn't trust anything from CFR's website. I'd trust Fox News first.
Once again! Every source is bullshit unless it fits your agenda! I'm done talkin to you about this. You have a very thick skull my friend,
well no here's my problem. when i post something, you guys say it's bullshit because it doesnt fit your agenda. so then u try and tell me that i dont believe anything if it doesnt fit my agenda. the argument goes both ways, so i guess we're equal.
Too Exclusive
08/09/05 3:08pm
now i see siilver posting a lot of CNN links. i bet if i found something in CNN that fit my agenda, like an article about prior knowledge... then i bet u guys would say it's bullshit even tho it comes from a source that u guys posted stuff from that followed ur agenda.
I posted one link to CNN.... get it right. also posted netural UN on this page and you even look at it? you D/L any adobe Doc.? you look around and see how many violations Iraq commited? do your work b4 you talk.
Too Exclusive
08/09/05 7:30pm
see that's where me and u differ. my paradigm, UN is NOT neutral, neither is CFR or Bilderberg group or Trilateral commission
you are right they are not netural, they are anti american and that is why we should pull out of the BS UN.
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/09/05 3:50pm)
QUOTE(Undertow @ 08/09/05 11:59am)
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/09/05 8:06am)
alright so maybe YOU yourself never said that undertow, but i was talkin about you guys in general. and no wat u said isn't the case. it's just when u take something from CFR's website, why don't you get it from white houses website itself? i wouldn't trust anything from CFR's website. I'd trust Fox News first.
Once again! Every source is bullshit unless it fits your agenda! I'm done talkin to you about this. You have a very thick skull my friend,
well no here's my problem. when i post something, you guys say it's bullshit because it doesnt fit your agenda. so then u try and tell me that i dont believe anything if it doesnt fit my agenda. the argument goes both ways, so i guess we're equal.
Look man. You didnt believe that saddam let terrorist train in iraq, You asked for a link, So i gave you one. And now its a BS link because it's from some web site YOU dont trust!(or is it cuz you were wrong)

You dont trust the U.S. But you believe all other propagana against the U.S. hmmm, terrorist sympathizer maybe? ..... Really man, I have relatives over there & it pisses me off to hear you sympathize with those animals...And you do sympathize with them!!. .. You have made statments such as "put yourself in there shoes".... "Their just defending their homeland" Those are cries of a sympathizer. Fuck those pig bastard's!! They wouldnt think twice about killing you. Your an American! You are the enemy to them.
Keep your opinions about our Government to yourself. You need to go live in the middle east for a while & then tell me how rotten America is. You have NO clue!
Me and BLK have a mission, we are going to go to his town and mess him up... Im sure we can fit you in the back seat....
QUOTE(Maj. H8Red @ 08/05/05 12:07pm)
QUOTE(Silver @ 08/04/05 2:18pm)
cut off all support to muslim countries and see if they hate us again, everyone go and buy a toyota prius, or a honda motorcycle so we can say fuck OPEC!
Yeah....whoa wait just a sec. ....if we all did that...I'd be out of a job....I say we just nuke the dirty rotton bastards

And here lies the great conundrum.

Why do so many Americans want more than they can have. Nuclear war is not a solution, so stop making remarks advocating it. Therefore, as I see it we either buck up, change our ways, and leave the Middle East for good. Or we do what we're doing now: wage war and pass retarded energy bills that do nothing to solve our problems. My post under the "Just a Question" thread parallels this. In fact, I think terrorism is not nearly the most important issue this country faces. A growing energy problem and the rise of China and India seem much more important to the survival of this country than suicide bombers. The UN is a joke, as Silver said, but sending a controversial figure like Bolton does nothing but aggrevate the situation...once again, a woeful lack of foresight or long-term planning. The way I see it, ride a fucking bike or take the train, that's what I do.
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