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TheGhost
...gets what he deserves. and gets the f*ckin sh*t beat outta him.

http://www.alldumb.com/item/18879/
The_redeemer
ghost,i agree. i cant even imagine how much pain i would inflict on anyone who ever hurts someone i love.
TheGhost
i know, if some dickhead killed my kid, give him 5 mins with me and ill show you justice, ya know?
|$aucy|
That's pretty hardcore.
Maj. H8Red
Justified IMO, I know it doesn't "right the wrong" Not even close, unfortunatly (sp) for the attacker he will probably face some serious battery charges. He handled it probably the same way I would have
Isis
I have to say I can totally understand where he was coming from. My cousin was tied up nearly beaten to death by a guy and now she is basically handicapped. She had to have multiple surgeries and will never be the same. She can barely talk and has no use in her right arm and she will probably be dependent on her parents and meds for the rest of her life. My aunt was telling us how you could see the rope marks on her wrists and ankles where this douchebag had tied her up and he was still at her apt. when the cops showed up to check on her. This asshole told the cops she was sleeping off an overdose! What pissed me off most about it, is the fact that since she had such a bad head injury she couldn't remember anything about what happened to testify at the trial, so he only got a simple aggravated assault charge, yet this guy has a rap sheet a mile long. How's that for justice?
TheGhost
i'm sorry to hear that isis. my condolenses.
Fusion
wow lol, is that the murders victims brother that kicks the crap outa him?
TheGhost
yeah
BlackPlague
Damn Isis, that sucks, sry to hear that. I thought i posted hear before, but i guess i didn't, it looks like his brother eh?
|$aucy|
QUOTE(BlackPlague @ 11/22/05 8:10am) *

I thought i posted hear before, but i guess i didn't



Nope, one thread you missed.
BlackPlague
And thats supposed to mean.... I meant i thought i posted about the movie...
440Cuda
Iris, I feel for you and your family...after going what your cousin went through, then being put through the justice system with her memory loss seems almost inhuman.

Being on the law side and working in SIB, I can tell you that no officer should have left the scene without checking on her well being.

Unfortunately, victims of crime who go through the criminal justice system, usually get victimized again during the testimony process. It's very sad to see that the criminals seem to have more rights than the victims.

All I can say is that if was my family, I would not let it get to criminal justice process....

They would know who did it........but they never would be able to prove it.

God Bless your cousin and family and lets just pray that one day that bastard who committed this crime gets his just deserts!!!!

Silver
QUOTE(440Cuda @ 12/21/05 11:50pm) *

Being on the law side and working in SIB, I can tell you that no officer should have left the scene without checking on her well being.

i have never known one cop that was ethical in any shape or form.... this being the result of various "screen tests", and being dropped off across the city in a dark neighborhood, handcuffed and "showen the light", or being robbed by the police,......

only time i have ever seen the police actually do shit is when they are personally involved (family or friends) then it still dont work in the victims favor.

this is why you have urban gangs.... people need protection, waiting an hour for the police to show up when you are being jumped and robbed is total BS...

Isis....

little advice.... know were he is for the next ten years and when no one is thinking about what he did pump a round of birdshot in his belly... 12 gauge buck or bird shot is harder to track then a riffled bullet. dont tell anyone ever....
440Cuda
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i have never known one cop that was ethical in any shape or form.... this being the result of various "screen tests", and being dropped off across the city in a dark neighborhood, handcuffed and "showen the light", or being robbed by the police,......
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Guess you know 2 now, eh Silver.....I sleep very well at night, knowing that I've done my best in all the situations that I deal with. It's unfortunate Silver that you have had negative intervention with the police, but all are not like the one's you have dealt with.

All in all, at the end of the day...I bet there are very few people who would be able to do what I do and not get a little hard. And after doing what I have for the length of time...seeing what I have seen....I'm sure that most people would prefer other careers.

At the end of the day, my goal is to get home safely to my family...along with my co-workers. Becoming complacent isn't an option.

Silver
I wouldnt say that... I am sure there are some decient cops out their.... somewere... I mean they are just people with power.... the sad thing is what happens when you cant rely on the police to handle situations. I dont feel the American justice system works in favor of victims or criminals... more like a suicidal-equality. Cant represent the victim to its fullest and cant punish the agressor to the fullest either. A fine line is drawn....
in Isis case that is a sick and fucking twisted thing to do to someone.... kinda person that needs to vanish one night. but see I think we all rely to much on our american goverment to much. the guy next door has his stereo too loud call him and tell him... dont hide behind the curtians and call the cops then act surprised when the neighbor asks you if you called the cops. (knowing and bold face lying to him)


What happened to the days when you insulted someone and it was settled in a fist fight not in court... or catch someone robbing your house and just shoot the fuck. what happened to respecting people and their shit? sad fucking day in america.

for example some little fuck is behind me on the I90 flashing his lights wanting to pass.... so in the traffic i move over the fucker shoots by with his finger in the air and cuts me off... why cant I follow him and beat the living day lights out that 18 Y/O punk? But no we have to OBEY the law and not do anything...

also pisses me off that the police can be armed to the hilt and the second I walk out the door with a gun the cop wants to know were i am going... (to a bell tower muther fu@ker!)

Flordia passes the shoot first law, texas has a great self defense law... NY.... I have to be shot and stabbed and locked in the closet before i can defend myself... (not to that extreme but more then whats needed)

cuda I use to work with the fire department over here and we did some work with the police the shit people call them out for is retarded...

cops are not the police you see on cops... thats just the high light reel.


Undertow
QUOTE(440Cuda @ 12/21/05 11:50pm) *

It's very sad to see that the criminals seem to have more rights than the victims.


About 10 years ago a burglar broke into my grandfathers home & cut his hand on the glass when he broke the window to get in. He was caught, but then sued my grandfather for pain & suffering and won. I'll say they got more rights. That's total BS.

Maybe you can explain this to me Cuda. When I was 16, I was riding with my step-brother and his girlfriend in her car when she tried going around a car that was turning and we got hit. Her fault, she caused the accident. The cop took statements from everyone except me. Instead he harassed me about a t-shirt I was wearing. He put me in cuff's and threatened to take me to jail demanding to know where I got the shirt from. It was an Over Kill shirt that said on the front "We dont care what you say", On the back it said "Fuck You". He kept me in the car for about a half hour asking me stupid question about the shirt and what was the difference in yelling that or wearing the shirt. Being a 16 year old smart ass I told him "Some people are illiterate" He couldnt find anything illegal about it so he let me go with the threat that as soon as he can find something illegal with the shirt he's comming to my house to get me. Now wtf was that about? I was a backseat passenger in a car accident. Instead of making sure I was ok he wanted to run me in for a concert t-shirt!?!?! Dont they have better things to do?
440Cuda
I hate hearing stories like your Undertow....Unfortunately, in every job class there are going to be assholes who abuse there power. The only answer I can give you is that you should be aware of your rights and if you feel that they have been abused then take action.

Our Jurisdiction has a Professional Standard Branch in which all complaints are submitted against police personnel. The problem comes when someone gets a speeding ticket, they make a complaint just to get the ticket withdrawn and clog up the system.

Obviously there will always be people with justifiable complaints that should be dealt with and abuse of power as well as excessive use of force should not be tolerated. If people who make complaints are not satisfied with the results they can make a complaint to OCOPS which is a civilian board...at which time they take over the investigation of the complaint. (Canadian)

I know in the states they have the internal affairs office that investigates police complaints. Unfortunately I am not familiar with the ins and outs of there procedures.

Fortunately for us Guns are illegal in Canada..so we have a very minor problem with shootings..in comparison to the US. Anyone with a gun..hunters for example must have them registered. All in all, I think this makes a safer country. That is my personal opinion.

As for law enforcement vs. the Criminal Justice System....there is a huge difference. Our job is to lay the charges and its up to the criminal justice system to determine the penalty. I've seen convicted rapists, drug dealers, etc get house arrest and or probation. Yes, this is a slap in our face as well...especially when you spent 3 hours of your shift investigating a crime, arresting the suspect and assisting the victims....just to go back into your next shift to find out they have been released. Then they tell us there is no profiling...so you can't go watch that criminal, even thought you know they will be out doing another robbery or B&E..because this would be considered profiling and just another excuse for the defense attorney to have the case withdrawn.

Abuse of power exists in all area's of life. Look at the CEO's in major corporations, look at federal and provincial levels of governent. It can be between a supervisor and a line worker in a factory. It is part of the school board. Many people are where they are today...because they new someone in a powerful position. It even occurs in our MOB forums...accusations of abuse of power.

As far as I am concerned...every person must decide how they want to live there life...and I believe that what goes around comes around....eventually!

TheGhost
my dad has this awesome bumper sticker that he got from a Marine we met down on Cape Cod this past summer, it says "Liberals want unarmed peasants." which is true to the highest level. i mean look at damn england (no offense shadow) they have the strictest fuckin gun laws and the HIGHEST HOMOCIDE/CRIME rate.

i have a good story as well, my next door neighbor was had his house broken into and he still had his servie Colt .45 from his days in WWII. he shot the fucker in the chest, he coulodnt see it was like 2 in the morning, and the sonofabitch sued MY NEIGHBOR and won. i still cant fuckin believe it.

Massachusetts sucks fuckin donkey balls. fuckin liberals, kill em all.
440Cuda
QUOTE(Undertow @ 12/22/05 1:45am) *
Maybe you can explain this to me Cuda. When I was 16, I was riding with my step-brother and his girlfriend in her car when she tried going around a car that was turning and we got hit. Her fault, she caused the accident. The cop took statements from everyone except me.


Just to add to that, any person inside a vehicle is considered a biased witness, if it was your brothers girlfriends fault would you have given a statement stating that she caused the accident? When officers are at the scene of a motor vehicle accident they take statements from both drivers and any other witness who are unbiased...this would be a person in another vehicle, pedestrian, etc which allows for impartial judgement on what really occurred. There are always two sides to a story and somewhere in the middle is the truth.

After viewing the damage to the vehicles, taking statements and complete the investigation, officers apply the law accordingly. I know here in Windsor ...if I am driving and go to pass a car and the car turns left in front of me, it is my fault..it does not matter that the car in front of me did not use the signal. What happened to you afterwards does not sound right....but at the same time, why make a big deal and not just laugh about your tee shirt to the cop. I was not there and hear your part of the story..sounds like a lot of waisted time to me...

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Undertow
QUOTE(440Cuda @ 12/22/05 2:47pm) *

QUOTE(Undertow @ 12/22/05 1:45am) *
Maybe you can explain this to me Cuda. When I was 16, I was riding with my step-brother and his girlfriend in her car when she tried going around a car that was turning and we got hit. Her fault, she caused the accident. The cop took statements from everyone except me.


Just to add to that, any person inside a vehicle is considered a biased witness, if it was your brothers girlfriends fault would you have given a statement stating that she caused the accident? When officers are at the scene of a motor vehicle accident they take statements from both drivers and any other witness who are unbiased...this would be a person in another vehicle, pedestrian, etc which allows for impartial judgement on what really occurred. There are always two sides to a story and somewhere in the middle is the truth.

After viewing the damage to the vehicles, taking statements and complete the investigation, officers apply the law accordingly. I know here in Windsor ...if I am driving and go to pass a car and the car turns left in front of me, it is my fault..it does not matter that the car in front of me did not use the signal. What happened to you afterwards does not sound right....but at the same time, why make a big deal and not just laugh about your tee shirt to the cop. I was not there and hear your part of the story..sounds like a lot of waisted time to me...

sad.gif sad.gif


Yeah I would've told the cop it was her fault, though I'm sure everyone there knew it was. She tried passing him on the shoulder of the road as he turned. As for laughing about my shirt, I was but the cop didn't find it humorous at all. Unfortunately I think the cop was harassing me cuz I was a 16 year old punk with long hair & an offensive tee shirt. rolleyes.gif
TheGhost
QUOTE(Undertow)
Unfortunately I think the cop was harassing me cuz I was a 16 year old punk with long hair & an offensive tee shirt. rolleyes.gif


Dude, I think I'm a spittin' image of you. unsure.gif

Scary...

Silver
an unarmed person isnt safer. putting laws on firearms just gives people that will violate the law a much bigger advantage.
Maj. H8Red
QUOTE(TheGhost @ 12/22/05 3:52pm) *

QUOTE(Undertow)
Unfortunately I think the cop was harassing me cuz I was a 16 year old punk with long hair & an offensive tee shirt. rolleyes.gif


Dude, I think I'm a spittin' image of you. unsure.gif

Scary...

Oh shit, not two of ya doh.gif lol
|$aucy|
QUOTE(TheGhost @ 12/22/05 2:46pm) *

fuckin liberals, kill em all.


People deserve to die because of their political beliefs? Why don't you move to a third world country run by warlords, I'm sure you would fit right in.
TheGhost
QUOTE(|$aucy| @ 12/22/05 7:44pm) *

QUOTE(TheGhost @ 12/22/05 2:46pm) *

fuckin liberals, kill em all.


People deserve to die because of their political beliefs? Why don't you move to a third world country run by warlords, I'm sure you would fit right in.


three things that ruined the world, hippies, |$aucy|, and liberals. KILL EM ALL
|$aucy|
QUOTE(TheGhost @ 12/22/05 7:50pm) *

QUOTE(|$aucy| @ 12/22/05 7:44pm) *

QUOTE(TheGhost @ 12/22/05 2:46pm) *

fuckin liberals, kill em all.


People deserve to die because of their political beliefs? Why don't you move to a third world country run by warlords, I'm sure you would fit right in.


three things that ruined the world, hippies, |$aucy|, and liberals. KILL EM ALL


I'm not going to argue with you and your immature retorts.

p.s. Way to make an ass of yourself.
The_redeemer
ghost, before you start blasting off immature remarks about liberals and the like, think of it this way


i'm a liberal


and i'm also much more intelligent than you



you saying kill 'em all just proves my point





i could go around saying


"kill all the fucking conservative piece of shit bush lovers"



but i don't

because that would be rude


even if it should be done



show some restraint when talking about politics, especially when you have 4 years until you are even eligible to vote, fucker.
blk96gt
Ghost,
I don't much care for the lefty hippies like redeemer either, but that doesn't mean they should all die(except for redeemr). Try not to shit on peoples political ideals when you in fact have no clue what is going on, even though you may think you do. I mean lets face it, you're not the brightest crayon in the box.
Silver
do all of you really think it matters what party is in control of the gov? either way they dont give a crap about the people just the power that they get to control. liberal, Dem, rep, green who cares

Silver for president! I will end world hunger, poverty, and crime! I have a master plan!
Maj. H8Red
Silver! Silver! Silver! Silver!!!!

Got my vote bro.
TheGhost
QUOTE(|$aucy| @ 12/22/05 8:55pm) *

p.s. Way to make an ass of yourself.


Thanks man, I take that as a compliment.

Redeemer, just because you are a liberal fuckstick doesn't mean that you're smarter than me. I have liberal friends that are dumb as a sack of shit.

Behemoth, fuck off you cocksuckin shit for brains.
Silver
SILVER FOR PREZ!!!
april 20th is a holiday!
pot legalized! snoop is head of DoW (dept. of Weed)
clinton is my advisor of office affairs
hillary is my body guard
bush girls are my party planers
druid will be head of cia....(i swear thats were he works now.... whistling.gif )
and the guy who killed his intern sandra levy.... me and him need to talk.... wink.gif

blk96gt
Wow Ghost, did you hurt yourself with that intelligent response. Seriously dude, just like silver said, it doesn't really matter who the hell the president is, most of them have the same agenda anyways(and no I do NOT beleive in the Iluminati).

And I agree, Silver for president.
TheGhost
QUOTE(behemoth @ 12/23/05 1:43pm) *

Wow Ghost, did you hurt yourself with that intelligent response.


Yeah, I did as a matter of fact, now i have a headache. Thanks for caring so much.
440Cuda
QUOTE
SILVER FOR PREZ!!!


Silver for Prez...LOL...... I'm not even American, but can you imagine this.....

Silver sitting in the White House, Oval Office at his computer..Monica walks in to bring him a beer 69.gif ..pretending to do work. forgets to make his speech and sign important international treaty, because he is too busy playing on the servers....

Come On Silver.....admit it....LOL

help.gif help.gif
Maj. H8Red
QUOTE(440Cuda @ 12/23/05 2:55pm) *

QUOTE
SILVER FOR PREZ!!!


because he is too busy playing on the servers....
help.gif help.gif

A good pres. MUST lead by example...
Silver
first thing for international treaty.... supports qubec(?) break from Canada long as the weed keeps comming...
Believe me if I was prez there would be an hour a day on the server for all! (paid for by welfare mom's)

edit---- all DEA officcers are fired and re hired as field workers!
|$aucy|
QUOTE(TheGhost @ 12/23/05 11:45am) *

QUOTE(|$aucy| @ 12/22/05 8:55pm) *

p.s. Way to make an ass of yourself.



Redeemer, just because you are a liberal fuckstick doesn't mean that you're smarter than me. I have liberal friends that are dumb as a sack of shit.

Behemoth, fuck off you cocksuckin shit for brains.


Redeemer is smarter than you. I am smarter than you. Kevin is smarter than you.

I honestly can't believe you have any friends at all if you act like this in RL.
TheGhost
QUOTE(|$aucy| @ 12/23/05 4:34pm) *


Redeemer is smarter than you. I am smarter than you. Kevin is smarter than you.

I honestly can't believe you have any friends at all if you act like this in RL.


I couldn't care less if all 3 of you are smater than me, I reallt don't give a flyin fat shit.

And yeah, I do have friends in RL, probably more than you do, believe it or not.
The_redeemer
i like how you utilize many ways of using the word shit


flyin fat shit
sack of shit etc etc


ghost, all i was saying is your immature, unintelligent comments, are ridiculous
Ktulu
Redeemer, what makes you so sure you are more intelligent than him? Maybe we should have a Quiz for you both or something where you could prove just how intelligent you are. Attacking someones Intelligence whom you dont even know is always a tricky thing because in doing so, you only make yourself look like a dumbass.
Isis
QUOTE(440Cuda @ 12/21/05 11:50pm) *

Being on the law side and working in SIB, I can tell you that no officer should have left the scene without checking on her well being.

God Bless your cousin and family and lets just pray that one day that bastard who committed this crime gets his just deserts!!!!


QUOTE(Isis @ 11/18/05 4:58pm) *

...he was still at her apt. when the cops showed up to check on her. This asshole told the cops she was sleeping off an overdose! What pissed me off most about it, is the fact that since she had such a bad head injury she couldn't remember anything about what happened to testify at the trial, so he only got a simple aggravated assault charge, yet this guy has a rap sheet a mile long. How's that for justice?


They did check on her, because my aunt had called them, since she hadn't heard from my cousin in several days. He was still at her place when they showed up and he lied to them about what happened. They arrested him on the scene as far as I know. Unfortunately, like I said, he got off pretty easy considering what he had done, because she was not able to remember enough of that night to testify. I would love to get him alone for five minutes, believe me, as would the rest of my family.

QUOTE(behemoth @ 12/22/05 10:41pm) *

Ghost,... I mean lets face it, you're not the brightest crayon in the box.


Hahaha!!

I'm smarter than all of you, 'cause I know how to use what I have to my advantage, so there! Now, who wants to buy me another pair of stilettos? tongue.gif
xl-FLAME-lx
QUOTE(Silver @ 12/23/05 2:07pm) *

SILVER FOR PREZ!!!
april 20th is a holiday!
pot legalized! snoop is head of DoW (dept. of Weed)
clinton is my advisor of office affairs
hillary is my body guard
bush girls are my party planers
druid will be head of cia....(i swear thats were he works now.... whistling.gif )
and the guy who killed his intern sandra levy.... me and him need to talk.... wink.gif

Now I am so stoned right now it's not even funny. I am confused also though...Silver isn't a president...and why is everyone saying vot for siver and pot isnt legalized...thats why e and some buds are watching half baked fright now.

Your dumb as hell if you think hes a presidedt or he think pot is leagalized.
Silver
QUOTE(xl-FLAME-lx @ 12/23/05 10:03pm) *

QUOTE(Silver @ 12/23/05 2:07pm) *

SILVER FOR PREZ!!!
april 20th is a holiday!
pot legalized! snoop is head of DoW (dept. of Weed)
clinton is my advisor of office affairs
hillary is my body guard
bush girls are my party planers
druid will be head of cia....(i swear thats were he works now.... whistling.gif )
and the guy who killed his intern sandra levy.... me and him need to talk.... wink.gif

Now I am so stoned right now it's not even funny. I am confused also though...Silver isn't a president...and why is everyone saying vot for siver and pot isnt legalized...thats why e and some buds are watching half baked fright now.

Your dumb as hell if you think hes a presidedt or he think pot is leagalized.


A.) Your high on more then pot....
B.) I am running for President of the USA... (under the White Trash party!)
C.) I will legalize pot when I become president...
D.) Send me some campaign donations bitch! action-smiley-055.gif
E.) Half Baked is as good as Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back! 2_thumbs_up_-_animated.gif
F.) If your stoned why isnt it funny? unsure.gif
440cudakid
SILVER FOR PREZ!!!



QUOTE
B.) I am running for President of the USA... (under the White Trash party!)


Hey Silver,

When you win can I come to your White Trash Trailor Party??? I wil bring some Jerry Springer music to play in the back ground. I will also bring my own tent to set up in your backyard..

And don't worry if its messy S8 will clean it up later!

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Silver
no problem long as we get some pole dancing and you have to hand out the jerry beads! And ur steve!
xl-FLAME-lx
WOw...I was apparently totally fucked up...my bad lol.
440Cuda
QUOTE(Silver @ 12/24/05 10:31am) *
no problem long as we get some pole dancing and you have to hand out the jerry beads! And ur steve!


LOL>>> Dave can play Steve, I'll just take care of the cat figths....LOL....Dave will enjoy it more....man handling the beeoches....

The pole will be delivered tomorrow.....

And yes FLAME you are beyond FUBAR,,,LOL



Maj. H8Red
Can we call this the......Silver Show?
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