curious to see what your fav ww 2 movie is BEFORE 1995 as saving private ryan is a given.

one of my all time fav is between, a bridge too far /longest day.

Tora tora tora

After would have been easy, would have been Der Untergang, Enemy at the Gates... before 1995
Das Boot? anyway... at 1995 I was 9... and not much into movies... I rember some fun moves about Patton or soemthing...but thats long ago..

1941

Das Boot. One of the rare WW2 movies with German perspective. Another fav, made before 95, is Cross of Iron.

1941? speilbergs first movie-raiders of lost ark awesome! im reading he is secretly working on something and speculation is a pacific theatre movie.

feezy reminded me of patton- big red one -eagles dare ,guns of nav-

A Bridge TooFar #1 [superb action and historical accuracy aside, it's jammed packed with the best one-liners/brief dialogues].... Battle of Britain very good too. > Cross of Iron a great story and The Eale has Landed even better[a recreation of the village battle scene would be a great custom CoD map].

*[edit]yuk... double post[sorry/ sometimes I can figure out how to get the 2nd post into the prior one]*
I could never get into those war is glamour movies like 'Bridge at Remagen' and 'Patton'. Especially with their including 'modern day' tanks.

My other bigtime favourite classic is "The Dirty Dozen" 1967... I think you'd love this one Feezy! Rent it if you can.

My favs are The longest Day,Bridge too Far, Cross of Iron , The Great Escape..................not just for the Motorcycle chase/jump ,but also the one liners.......and last (but not least) Kellys Heros.

Bridge Too Far was awesome! Dirty Dozen was great but was fictional. Tora Tora Tora was another great one. Stalingrad, older one, was really good too.

Ooooo, Patton!

the great escape

I'm confused by this... 1941 came out before Raiders & I believe Jaws was his first movie.

1941 WAS STEVEN SPEIBERGS FIRST FILM.it flopped (for every1 involved including belushi) ,then jaws.



hey cross-i forgot kellys heroes(good one) they are remaking it!

Jaws: 1975 ----> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073195/

1941: 1979 ----> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078723/

And I was wrong. The Sugarland Express was his first film. ---> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072226/

I remember 1 Which was a secret operation to destroy Guns on Sicily.

I think it was Called Guns of Navarone or something like that Had the guy from indiana jones in it! pretty good!
Theres a bunch of versions though i dont remember the 1 i watched. Another good 1 is The Great Raid.
Actually The movies called The guns on Navarone directed by J.Lee Tompson

Band of Brothers.

Post 1995, but I agree that it's the best war movie out there. I'm looking forward to Flags of Our Fathers and the Pacific Theatre Band of Brothers.

im sorry undertow i was mistaken but ive always been under the impresion it was his first.and i completly forgot about duel.never heard of any others but i did see one he made when he was like 9-it was a ww2 movie.



allthough i think band of brothers is one of the best ever made (post 95) i have always read about and had a curiousity about ww2.i went to see private ryan the day it opend with my then girlfriend and it completly blew my mind.(she didnt like it) to this day i wont watch movie awards because that year if you look back shakespere in love beat out saving private ryan.couldnt believe it!?



feezy -i liked enemy at the gates but couldnt get past the english accents-cant they make a movie more realistic?i can read.

There I have to agree. Its a good movie if you look at the shots, the weapons etc. the mayor drawback of the whole movie is that the russians dont speak russian..simple...but thats I think because it was made for western public.

Its cool, I was confused cuz I originally thought you meant Raiders was his first.



I agree.



I liked this movie too. Come to think of it, It is kinda funny how the Russians had English accent's (U.K.) & Ed Harris as a nazi spoke perfect english (U.S.)..lol And they could have done without the gratuitous sex scene!

I saw SPR on opening night too. The entire first 15 minutes blew me away. I had heard all the stories from my grandfathers and their friends about WWII, down to the sounds and feeling they had. It wasn't till I saw that sequence that I kind of understood what they were going through. I just remember suddenly taking in a huge breath after the opening like I hadn't really breathed the whole time it was going on. The sound of the bullets hitting wet flesh and whizzing by... crazy stuff.

i own SPR, enemy at the gates, we were soldiers, and movies like kingdom of heaven, gladiator. etc.

my favorite has to be BoB ( even though its NOT a movie, its an HBO series )

Yeah band of brothers is really good and enemy at the gates but i watch it in french so the british accent did'nt heard it ,but they all speak good french!!lolol

Band of Brothers is definatly a nice movie Shame the Russians speak english I woulda put subtitles on and learned how to say hello

But thers a lot of em that were good including Battle of the bulge. but hey Band of brothers is sick!

I didn't like We Were Soldiers too much. I found it almost unbelievable that officers would run down and chase a running enemy like that.... maybe some enlisted scrubs, but not officers.

Nope....Guns OF Naverone
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/076782178...?v=glance&n=130

Then there was a nice sequel 19 years later with Harrison Ford as an Allied saboteur on a mission in Yugoslavia Force 10 from Naverone.
Come on you other guys, stick to pre-1995 movies lol......

Cockleshell Heros is a WW2 film based on a true story about Royal Marine Major Stringer and Captian Thompson chose volunteers for an unknown job.They trained them for a year ,then embarked them on a canoe invasion of an enemy-held port in France for the purpose of blowing up giant German Battleships.Only 2 made it back to England with help from French Resistance.At the beginning of the film ,theres an interview with the only surviving member left today.



One to watch for accueracy.

sorry hellfighter one more.pez ,hit the nail on the head-i thought i new alot about ww2 when i saw spr and then that first 15 min came and all the previuos glory war films went out the door.i remember say holy shit these guys are 18 and some as young as 15,blew me away!i felt like having a drink after the beach scene. bob touches alittle on that too.

im no p***y but i always wonder if i was in the same situation would i freeze too?

Lol that must be the most retarded thing an officer could do...I totally hope some1 shot his ass.

I thought that was an awesome movie...more (not more realistic) but closer than the other Vietnam movies

My sentiments too regarding SPR- those Rangers trained so long and hard for the beach landing only to be annhillated as soon as they and others hit Omaha beach.
recall the Brit Paras that stormed the formidable Merville Battery on D-Day too, so young, with most officers not much older either. Well I guess sadly nearly all armies were using young folks by that time of the war too with casualty attrition rates so high.
The 2nd time I saw SPR at the theater, I went with a good young lady friend of mine.... as soon as the beach assault scene was overI turned to look at her and tears were rolling down her cheeks.

That was me dude.

in addition to all the fine ones mentioned previously, Anzio was good; The Desert Fox was good, For Bogie Fans, Sahara was good as well; hell in the Pacific was excellent; there are many good ones out there....

most movies before 1970 about war were focus so much on heroism and courage, which is exactly what america needed. SPR raelly tied to reinact alot of the realizm of the war. You would have rarely seen any director in the classic movies hiring scads of the diabled to depict the warriors who had their libms blown off. I was so moved by the movie that I bought it, adn cant watch it. Being one of three brothers, it hit me like a brick, and my mother wont watch it at all. It was almost too real. Movies like full metal jacket and even apocolypse now springboarded us into an era of expecting realism, and not necessarily heroism. Difficult to compare tora tora tora, and a dude being turned into a pink cloud after the sticky bomb goes off prematurely (the most diturbing part to me). My grandfater was on the southern caost of Britain operating an AA gun, and had some of the most incredible stories...

That was me dude. [/quote]

sorry but laughing !

The barrack scenes for Full Metal Jacket and the obsticale course scenes were filmed at my army barracks in(Queens Division) Royston Hertfordshire UK.
If you look closely in the obsticle coruse scene you can see a British soldier dressed in camo gear in the back ground.

Ohhh, you're one of those eagle eyed types that spot miniscule but glaring edting errors in movies! Pretty sharp. It reminds me of someone spotting a funny thing in the 90's movie Glory [american civil war story of 54th 'coloured' Mass. regiment] - in the opening battle scene, Union troops are marching into battle and some putz wearing a wristwatch can be seen lol[mid distance].

That someone being you........lol

ooook, Why laughing at Pezking's reaction? I'm curious..... for me, the scene [SPR beach landing] was almost making me ducking in my chair hearing the whizzing bullets. I had a similar feeling as Pezking's watching the last scene in the movie Glory when the 54th against all odds charge into a portion of Fort Wagner taking collosal casualties... furthermore the movie erroneously shows them taking cover then making a final assault when in fact the charge was continuous!

Thats Hollywood for you ,they protrated Bridge on thr River Kwia with similar disfunctions in that the British Officer didnt redesign and build the bridge to show UK enginerring ,but to get better food and conditions for his men.People put their lives on the line for their country and this is how we repay them..its wrong, we should be true to them not try to glorify it....thats just belittling them.

I think he was laughing because my post was double edged. Kind of joking that someone turned around and saw me crying... but on the same hand, there were many parts in that movie that I got a bit emotional. Usually it was just the heavy chest with the lump in the throat but I had a little tear overfill from the eyes as well. When Mellish took the knife in the chest while Upham just sits out on the stairs... I was freaking!

Oh, and speaking of filming on site. That movie "In the Army Now" with Pauly Shore and Andy Dick... the boot camp sequence was filmed at Ft. Sill, OK where I did my boot camp and AIT. That place crazy sucks.

I was pissed at Upham! He had all the ammo and just freaked out for the most part. That didnt help them at all.

Yep that Mellish scene was 'tense'. But I can understand Upham's freezing. I remember in High School gym classes I loved going on the high bar/climbing but one day the gym class teacher wanted be to flip backwards while sitting on the high bar, and confident as I was before that on the high bar, I just froze in place.... my mind wanted to proceed but my body just held on as if for dear life. Too bad it took the horrors of WW1 and the awful frequency of British/French executions for cases of cowardice to somewhat understand combat fatigue and the effect on young people who endure hails of flying lead/metal projectiles.

Remember he wasn't a veteran infantryman either. He was dragged into the dangerous mission even though he was a staff clerk. This was one of Captain Miller's few boo-boos. I found it odd though that Upham shot that German he felt betrayed by because he wanted him set free earlier on, then he lets the other 3 or 4 German prisoners go to live and fight another day and kill Allied soldiers later on.

Top Secret!

no,lol... some of those sites that deal with movie edit glitches are a riot though.

sorry been working crazy! in no way was i laughing at the beach scene! it was intense and glory was the same hellfighter (great movie by the way).to talk about upham-that was an important scene because if you hesitate even for a second some one will get killed.but the bayonet scene was even more intense because i actually was able to put myself in his place ,same with upham (i get very pissed but have to forgive him ).once again ill say it-im no coward what so ever but put in the situation of charging the beach ,taking on a batalion of germans with 10 guys or having a bayonet fight with a german twice my size,i wonder if id freeze ? i think thats what he did as a director is to try to get the viewer to put himself into alot of other guys shoes and ask himself questions? 15,16,17,18 years old! i couldnt even drink beer right at that age!

cross-your right about kwai and it pissed alot of guys off (the movie)because it wasnt just the bridge the real guys built it was an entire railroad and they were worked to death! the prisoners looked similar to the consentration camp jews.

top secret -not to joke but i knew this one would come up?!@#

this is a good topic!

Sorry Undead, I really didn't mean that at all . I was commenting on the chuckle at Pezking's 'emotional expression' .
I'd be heart broken or rolling over in my grave for eternity if I was that Kwai p.o.w commander and saw that portrayal of himself in a blockbuster movie! You can forgive movie director's [somewhat] for creative license in movies like Troy making siege last 2 weeks[without siege weapons lol!] but distorting live events and unfairly staining personalities -blah.
Another historical period I study is the Napoleonic Wars. Very horrid. Imagine being a young conscript required to stand upright in close ranked formations under bombardments/volleys and fearsome ponsy officers badgering on about staying rigid and NOT ducking.

Well, I never forgave him and resented him being there. The fact that he shoots the German in the end after he's surrendered says it all. He reminded me of the bleeding heart liberal types that don't want capital punishment or think prisoners should have rights.... until their own loved one(s) are killed violently by someone, then ofcourse they want that person to die with a lot of pain. Hmm, not sure if that came across right?

I know it was a movie and Upham had his purpose, but in reality he would've been attached to one of those platoons or divisions they came across while looking for Pvt. Ryan. I can't really think of a lot of positives he brought to the group, except in the end with the ammo running... which was questionable.

I agree, good topic for forums.

only thing you have to remember is noone wanted to be there and they didnt know what germany was doing to the jews.most only joined to get a check(job)at end of depresion wich they discuss a little in bob.wich brings me to another scene- crossraods (bob) speirs runs full charge across a field comes over bluff to only be face to face with one ss infantry awake,both stare a second and the germ jestures (what are you waiting for kill me) then all hell breaks loose.he seems to see him alot after and he didnt want to kill him because of his age (prob 15 or 16) but their at war what are you gonna do take a whole division prisoner? that split sec stare says alot! i think thats the episode tom hanks directed if you look back.in real life speirs probably re visited killing that 15 yr old every day for the rest of his life.