lol, that's right you guys have even visited with rocker in person and you think he would cheat? come on you have known him forever guys...and since im his kid you think he would allow me to hack? nope sorry he would kick my butt he doesn't believe in that at all and plus i wouldn't hack i have higher morals then that...if im not good at a game i dont force it by cheating. gomer and lineman i always got along with you guys too why would you put me down like that? you always thought i hacked and said it behind my back?

i told people i wasnt sure if you hacked or not. but with khemist and rocker i have been told by alot of former and non clan members that they do, or did. plus when you lose 5 or 6 matches in a row, and have the team deleted and start a new team in less then a week and go 13-0. then i was told by a good source that rocker had a reverend bypass but the last update caught it, and that when they forfieted there match and deleted them selfs from the ladder. what would you think if you were on the other side? alot of the teams didnt look at there past team ranks to put 2 and 2 together. oh, is it true that el p is mohtruth?

Hmmm, I told myself I wasn't going to reply to your lies anymore, lol but this is ridiculous. Actually, we never lost 5-6 times in a row, they only reason we deleted the first team was because we beat TsK and then they disputed over max fps being 15 000 which ogl had just changed it to that, but we ended up replaying it and lost, So we made a new team and went undefeated. Eventually it got boring, beat all the good 2v2 teams on the ladder and just started to play the same teams consecutively. So then we requested deletion and now we have =SK= Reborn. You'll see us at first again The truth hurts doesn't it?
Wow, sorry to put your next lie to bed, But try and come up with a new more believeable one gomer. Maybe line can help you some, that one was pretty lame.

here you go since you forgot. truth hurts

Thank you for restoring my memory. Why don't you take a look at the teams we lost to, RE, MOB, USMC, then take a look at the teams we beat to reach 13-0. Not the same teams, or we might of had a few losses, but I forgot, if your so stupid to think I hack, of course you wouldn't think of something like that. Once again, foolish gomer posts again. Cheers. I'm getting so tired of clearing up all the lies your posting. I'm done here, I think all can see here your just trying to run down your old clan.

oh you didnt play and win, you all forfieted

this is the same stuff over and over again...anything that happens doing with =SK= some stupid rumor goes around and i have no idea who starts it all but you take something like them taking a rest and turn it into a new version came out i mean come on the way you make stuff up we can't even move without it having some hacking explainable reason.

and btw...as far as khemist and rocker getting 13-0...i don't really know who they played as far as good/bad but there are always things only the clan members know...obviously im not gonna go around telling everyone what we do all the time just to fill you in so we can't win matches but we won't be called hacks. practice helps alot and organizing...if our clan isn't organized we will do 200% worse. there are certain maps we are better on than others. lots of things come in when you play a match and lately we have made sure to have our team 100% cause we need it going against all these good clans. TLD caught us totally unorganized the other week and i mean they really kicked our butts but we learned alot from that and then ended up beating them a little while later.

No it's a prominent member of =|BoM|=.

My quote function doesn;t work on this scomputer, it must be related to the latest version of Reverend. kidding of course......

Rocker "As for the fact the Reject and Khemist are my sons...not earthshattering news and I'm proud of them and they way they play this game."

Wow,

I know my statistics posts were pretty dry and a tad on the long side; although I thought Natalie Portman was a great way to end it.

Anyway, you guys don't even want to know what happens to the odds if we factor in that both players with problems were related or that they were in the same house. OMG, the odds get astromonical, I can't even venture a guess. It appears that reverned issues are a bit of a theme for SK now.



ReJect; "downloaded the new 1604 version is when i had the problem of it freezing(this is 2nd time now i think) it's probably something im doing" - this of course puts the odds for ReJect having issues towards the more likely side and screws my math up allover again.

I would drop one super practice and spend it entirely on getting ReJects and Khemist's Rev to work, you gotta admit it would make for simpler victories assuming you keep doing as well. It seems what ReJect is saying is that there is something in his computer that this latest version of Reverend doesn't like, so I would try to find it and remove and make sure the same thing isn't in Khemists system too.


Gomer; Neat replies with the screenies, there was a movie with Val Kilmer where he was a federal agent on an indian reservation. I forget what the movie was called but another Agent told Kilmer to "always get it on tape" [when you interview someone.] I thought of that movie & you when SK was saying it wasn't how you said it with the 2V2 and you threw back those 3 screenies. Kinda hard to recover from a screenie...nice job.

i have more. have to refresh they memories..............


heres their team after less then a week from coming back with their new team

quit as sk red devils on oct/18/04
1st match new team as sk rabble on oct/22/04

you will see they took reject out and replaced him with foggy. but i can just about guarantee foggy didnt play in many matches if any at all. but im sure those clans they played againist can check the matchwatch logs on that if anyone still has them.

i have the same problem. i hit the quote botton and a few seconds later i just hit reply and it will have the quote in my message. maybe it will work for you too. lol

Actually, heavy we don't live in the same house bud, check our ip's. So change your math again. Your variables are way off.

PS - gomer, why don't you go play your 1 of 12 games you blow at, or go to your 'site' remember, the one that is suppose to be a resource for all the popular games, also the one that has a max of 50 people signed up.. Just go do something, Your bugging everyone here pretty much besides heavy, cuz you 2 are working on the same thing. I would think you should have something better to do than this grandpa.

its called having a hub, and your dad pays for the extra ips cause he told me humself he does that cause the game you all play wont allow you 3 to play with the same ip. so try again.

LOL? wow stfu that was very stupid, you havent even talked to SK in forever, and if you remember something like that from a year or two ago,, then im impressed, but I know you didnt, so try again fag.

wow, what a big word for a child, did you think that all up on your own?

Well I of course knew rocker was at least one of your's father I guess both. So your saying he's your father but you don't live with him? Did your parents divorce or something, my parents divorced when I was 3 and frankly it really fucked me up, took years to undo the damage. Why can't "til death do us part" mean til death do us part anymore. Well sorry bout having a broken home, at least you and your dad stay in touch through the game. I home you grow up without any issues around it and I hope your mom and pop are at least friendly with eachother and it's not that awkward thing where he comes to pick you up and your mom and dad won't even look at eachother or say hello; that's how my parent were but that was 25 years ago.

rocker has custody of them. and they do live in the same house. i asked rocker along time ago why he doesnt use a router so he woulrdnt have to pay 10.00 more for each extra ip a month, and he told me cause him and the kids play queers of empire it that game ill no allow them to play on the same server if they ips are the same. rocker uses a cable hub instead of a router. so khemist is trying to get everyone to beleave he doesnt live with rocker. why khemist, you ashamed to admit you live with your dad?

THIS IS THE GREATEST THING I HAVE EVR SEEN
Col. Ernie out

Hmmm, Your going to sit there and tell me you know where I live? Yeah, everyone please believe gomer, he's never even seen me and he thinks he knows where I live, screw off man. I do have a mom, not just a dad.

PS - Thanks heavy, I appreciate it, but it's not that kind of relationship at all. Sorry to hear it was for you though.

That's a little personal Gomer but that's ok. Let me spell it out for you, Reject lives with him mom now. Khemist lives with me and plays over at my mom in laws because I built her a new pc. Yep guess you didn't know that I am remarried did you? We live just outside Tampa now, any other questions? BTW I wear a size 9 shoe and prefer brussel sprouts with cheese over asparagus. How about friday afternoon... meet at a friend of mines house in Tampa and you can watch Khem and Reject play in person. Maybe around 4pm and I will get you directions. Now I don't mind doing this as long as you will post here afterwards because they will be the best MOHAA players you have ever seen in person. {MOB} Katulu is from Tampa and is invited too. LMK

do you really think he will take you up on this? he sounds like a guy that dont know his face from his ass, let alone know what a good player really is. i think if he did see it in person he would still lie about it, as most of the posts i see from him in other forums are a bucnh of useless crap. he must be single and dont have a life.

I'm gonna do another stats post regarding the likelyhood of someone who wanted to shut down windows while Rev was zipping the files and any anomalies that would prevent that. You would think that if someone wanted to kill power to their machine to prevent the zipping of files then they would have a 100% chance of doing that butt what if they fell off their chair and knocked themselves out for a few minutes and Rev actually was able to produce a Zip. Obviously this won't be a 4,000-1 or 52,000-1 scenario, more like 1:1.00825 or something but it still would be interesting math.

All hypothetcial of course.

If someone wanted to kill power to their machine to prevent the zip, what would be a cause for not doing that? I can come up with falling down while reaching for the button, having a sneezing fest or a mean case of the hick-ups, or having to take a pee so bad that your eyes start watering.

What else would prevent getting to that all important power button in time?

Anyone have any other ideas what could stop you?

How about a case of stomach cramps -you know the really bad ones like when you have the big D. You take one try at the button but...if you miss do you chance another try?

theres only 1 thing, hiding something from reverend.

My response to this bullshit.

Mars

http://www.golala.com/forums/index.php?mfo...wtopic=164&st=0

wow mars, you really believe we hack that bad? im sorry man but that's really funny and sad at the same time since i know i don't. i am always nice and won't say anything bad but seriously guys...nothing i do will ever make you happy because all you want to do is call me and =SK= a hack. i can only think of one way and that's have the news team come down here and do a live video of me playing but im afraid i can't do that so i guess since im not gonna do bad to not get called hack i will just keep kickin a$$ and let you guys call me hack if you want but just one last time i will tell you that i don't and that im just a good player. thanks for you time and kinda understanding

Look asswipe, I received a ton of emails and PMs about you guys from people who know you. You think all the people who know about you aren't going to say anything? You're a joke and now everyone knows it.

Mars

ok, so let me see i can name alot of players out there that have scores of 70 to 20 pretty much every map, they are from very repectable clans (-cf-, RE, VX9 and more) do these guys hack? do you accuse them of hacking when they are in your server or any server fopr that matter? answer that, then think about it

exactly, if you would have lost like that to MOB you wouldn't have said a thing you would have just reported loss but because we aren't one of the top clans you can't except a loss that bad. i would definately like to know who is telling you all this because either it's bs that people are telling you that or it's people like gomer and lineman that are just out to get =SK=

oh so put all the blame on me and lineman. were we in the match? no. did we make you shut down reverend before it was done? no. so shut the fuck up little grasshopper .

im not putting ALL the blame on you and lineman pretty much just you cause i think everyone has seen what you have to say about =SK= throughout this forum...and im sure you go around talking the same bs on other forums cause i know you do here and 3rd ID

well cant do it at sk ( since were banned from forums ) cause your pappy doesnt like hearing the truth. but thats ok, theres tons more site we can post on.

you say that same thing over and over again about hearing the truth...no, we just got tired of you and lineman starting stuff on our forums

Meeting us at 4 pm friday afternoon gomer?? hope to see ya there man.

Wow, i can't believe this is still going on...Gomer i don't no what is up with you and SK but your a real butt muncher , do u do anything but complain about how khemist reject and the SK bunch "hack" and beat your noob ass everyday? And how you have these "people" that have seen them hack...

And what is up with all these odds? Heres some for you. The odds of khemist owning you 1:1 the odds of reject owning you 1:1 the odds of 3rd_id wasting days of our time because they got schooled hardcore 1:1 the odds of SK beating you again wednesday 1:1.

Cya 3rd_id on wednesday and good luck with your dispute after we own you again.
O and gomer go over to rockers house and khemist please take a picture of his face when he realizes you all don't hack aqnd have been schooling him from day 1.
>.<

Even if you guys don't win Wednesday, if you can manage to close out Reverend and email out complete and origional zip files, you'll all be winners in my book. (oh, that's 'winers' if you're PerNOOBian=)

i think u mean even if you do win on wednesday, in order for that to make sense....learn english 'micvultuh'

O and nice site, your drawings are pretty good, and im not being sarcastic or anything

i think his fucker can only count to 1. go back to school and spack your teach in the back of their head, and tell them to teach you some math.

LMAO hans. Truth hurts doesn't it?

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wow i think you should go back to school and find your old teacher and tell them to re-teach you how to spell

i still have yet to see actuall proof about the hacking, other than he said she said which does not prove anything to me, from what i can tell it is all accusations

So you're basically saying "I nova, random forum dipshit, having not been involved with the match and not being a member of the OGL admin crew decree that the rematch be cancelled due to my exclusion from relevant information."

I guess the next time we send out SS I'll have to CC you a copy; you obviously are very involved in the process, I'm sure the OGL admins will do the same when they realize the weight of your input.

Mikevolta;

"Even if you guys don't win Wednesday, if you can manage to close out Reverend and email out complete and origional zip files, you'll all be winners in my book. (oh, that's 'winers' if you're PerNOOBian=)"

read it slowly.....

He's saying even if you 'lose' butt are still able to close out of reverend completely then you would be winniers/winers in his book.

Read it slowly.....even if you lose you can still be a winner...

try it several times, it will come to you.

FYI, 3rd ID -v- SK is a rematch Wednesday night with Admins present.

i heard that 3 admins will be specing, 1 for reject, 1 for khemist and 1 for rocker. lol, but thats on speculation on my part

i hope they do spec us so when me and khemist are still owning there won't be any hack calling

Your logic is conflicting. I'm gonna go get some Tylenol. : P

ReJect, I mean this lightly so stay with me; you know that half your problem ReJect is likely your language or age [and maybe your name.]

I've certainly used the word 'owned' although it's usually 'ownt' & in reply to killing somone I know and it's usally in jest. You keep using the word owning and frankly all it keeps making me think of when I am on a server and there's no one with rcon and some hack keeps bragging about how he's owning everyone. the second part would be that statistically I think we'd mostly agree that hacks are more likely younger than older and with out the lessons in life, they don't get the whole deal with 'earning something' versus a cheaper way out.

The odds of having two superstars in the same family is rare you gotta admit, think of the dedicated players out there who will never make the 'majors' if you will.

Keep in mind this is not about you and hacking so far, it's just a general talk on perception.

I'll switch that up a little now.

Personally in our match, you did one thing to me in the infirmary that made me say to myself "now that was really odd." And despite your 110 ping, you continually would round those stairs and get the drop on me pinging 35, these were scenarios where we both knew we were looking for trouble, I was crouched to shoot at you coming down and you would be simply running right down the stairs wide open [don't forget the stability advantage versus running as far as accuracy is concerned] and I am focused clearly on you rounding the corner while you are running down to simply see where the action is.

None of what I just said leads me to believe you were hacking, I did find it peculiar though.


There is one event where somone else did something that had me 95% convinced they were hacking, it was a pre-fire at me while I popped a lean. I was at the junction of arch and casbah when I was going to take a pop-shot snipe at the office window, I was guessing that you guys would have a guy there and you did. I was not poking through the corner wall either, I was a few feet back of the corner

Well anyway, I popped the lean to see & shoot and I immediately got shot at from a guy hugging the rightside doorway [my left] on the road from office to Tavern. Here's the problem....there was a guy in the office but he didn't see me and he wasn't shooting at me; I wasn't getting hit because the guy firing didn't have a line of fire on me. To be clear, I am getting shot at with an MG going full auto winging bullets to my right side. I have not moved since I leaned right and the guy in the office window is not shooting at me.

After realizing I wasn;t gonna die, I snipe the guy in the office and there is no one else down range in my scope. The guy shooting at me from the doorway runs out of ammo and I can hear him reloading. I stand up and srafe right to pop out to shoot him but I miss. He was so out of my fire lane I had to move say 3 feet to my right to shoot at him.

What about sound? well I walked to this spot all the way from the top of Arch and Scarface was already down there walking and covering me. There are no sound glitches like the lip @ the rebar in the Infirmary. This was not where I had rounded a corner but the other guy shot me first because of a system or ping advantage and where I felt 'pre-fired.' This is where someone who can't see me empties a clip and then I pop out to try to hit him when he's out of ammo.

Since I didn't hit him and I was out of nades, I backed off and I of course don't know who it was because he never hit me.

Other players form 3rd ID had similar or better or worse experiences, it all warranted getting screenies and had they been in order we would have promplty reported. ReJect and Khemist could not produce the text files from Rev. and that is really the heart of the dispute. There was some strange things with a Germans helmet on an SS. But the lack of text files is why were all here. Had a lower scoring player had that problem and only one player then we wouldn't be here as well.

If we were not somewhat suspicious, we would have not asked for screenies.

I think any team given what we felt during the match at times and given the missing files would have diputed this as well.

Last point on names;

ReJect and Khemist just have this hackish feel to them....you know? Khemist like someone trying to 'cook' something up and ReJect meaning not up to par wtih normal or not like the rest of us. They are cool names just the same.

If you own us this time around, it will be certainly more legitimate if not completely. If you lose this, you guys will have a lot to recover from.

Good luck,

Heavy D

hey, well that was a really long message but as far as my name goes it's a long story and means nothing just i like it. hey, i do understand why you guys disputed because i know that me and khemist were doing really well and then both had problems and looks really bad. but once again im here to tell you i dont hack and neither does khemist. i really hate that you feel this way because it's not what i want from being a skilled player. if you would like to add me on gamespy or add me to yim or aim and play with me some and stuff im sure you will see that im not a hacker and a really nice person. as far as me seeming young i am 16 years old. once again i think part of this is that you dont know me and if you did you wouldn't feel this way or if you played with me more than in a match when your looking to hold 2nd place. i know that we have some people in our clan who come have verbal wars alot more than i would and alot differently but everyone is different. i have my way of handling things and everyone else has their way. well i hope to see you change your mind by tomorrow night because in all honesty it does bother me to think so many people could call me a hacker but im sure you guys want that but i wont lie and say it doesnt bother me cause it does.